antique spoked wheel platform w/ bag in good condition

[paranday]

This is an odd one, and in nice shape. Would make a nice decoration to hang from the ceiling,,,

http://saltlakecity.craigslist.org/atq/1574324760.html

Maybe the seller would ship?

[Tim]

It's on craigslist too, so hopefully the price won't get bid up to ridiculous levels...

[paranday]

It's on craigslist too, so hopefully the price won't get bid up to ridiculous levels...

Far as I know there is no bidding, $100 takes it. If I lived in Salt Lake City it would be a no-brainer. I've seen plenty of old wooden ring style platforms for sale, but never a bicycle spoke wheel type like this one.

[Speedbag]

It does not show the swivel connection to the axel very well. Looks to be an original home made attempt at a rebound ring. Pretty cool actually. But I imagine with the small screws holding it up in the center it vibrates pretty bad. definitely more for decoration.

Good find, though. another unique speed bag configuration.

[Dutchman]

Somewhere in the hard drive of my other computer(which is near death) is a copy of an ad for this rebound ring. This is the best preserved example of this particular type ring that I have seen. It was yet another attempt at reducing the weight of the ring while also reducing the noise and vibration. I could conceive that it could reduce the noise factor, but I'd imagine that after a break in period things would start loosening up. The swivel arrangement looks to be nothing more than an eyebolt on this one. Whether or not that is original , I can't say untill I can get into the other machine again.

[paranday]

Somewhere in the hard drive of my other computer(which is near death) is a copy of an ad for this rebound ring. This is the best preserved example of this particular type ring that I have seen. It was yet another attempt at reducing the weight of the ring while also reducing the noise and vibration. I could conceive that it could reduce the noise factor, but I'd imagine that after a break in period things would start loosening up. The swivel arrangement looks to be nothing more than an eyebolt on this one. Whether or not that is original , I can't say untill I can get into the other machine again.

It will be great if you can post the ad here. And I hope someone with an interest in speed bag history gets a chance to buy this bad boy.

[Speedbag]

Somewhere in the hard drive of my other computer(which is near death) is a copy of an ad for this rebound ring. This is the best preserved example of this particular type ring that I have seen. It was yet another attempt at reducing the weight of the ring while also reducing the noise and vibration. I could conceive that it could reduce the noise factor, but I'd imagine that after a break in period things would start loosening up. The swivel arrangement looks to be nothing more than an eyebolt on this one. Whether or not that is original , I can't say untill I can get into the other machine again.

Yeah, mine too. I've got several windows computers near death. I'm planning on going to Mac and try to spend more time actually computing than trying to figure out and solve a problem in the OS. I should have done it years ago, but I'm a slow learner sometimes....

So you're saying this was a standard rebound ring that was advertised years ago? I thought it was a personally made cycle tire that was adapted.

[Dutchman]

The problem I'm having with the cpu in question is that the power supply fan is about shot, and it's not serviciable. The power supply heats up and things start shutting down. It's a rebuilt (several times by now) eMachine and I've come to the conclusion it's just not worth resurrecting anymore. The hard drive is new, so I'm saving my pennies to build up a new one and utilizing this hard drive as a secondary.

As far as the ring, it's one of many variations that were not only patented but actually manufactured and sold. Tenision wheels where one of the major engineering fascinations during this era. Al kinds of things use this principal, not just bicycle & motorcycle wheels. The original Ferris Wheel at the 1892 Chicago Worlds Fair was a tension wheel, as has been just about every one built since.

As we all know the life expectancy of this equipment can vary. The stuff that didn't work out (such as this rebound ring) make finding survivng examples an interesting piece of history of "physical culture" as they referred to it in the late 19th and early 20th century.

[Tim]

Yeah, mine too. I've got several windows computers near death. I'm planning on going to Mac and try to spend more time actually computing than trying to figure out and solve a problem in the OS. I should have done it years ago, but I'm a slow learner sometimes....

You know who to call if you need help. I've had only Mac at home for 3 years now, but I use Windows daily at work as well.

The problem I'm having with the cpu in question is that the power supply fan is about shot, and it's not serviciable. The power supply heats up and things start shutting down. It's a rebuilt (several times by now) eMachine and I've come to the conclusion it's just not worth resurrecting anymore. The hard drive is new, so I'm saving my pennies to build up a new one and utilizing this hard drive as a secondary.

That's what I was going to suggest - pop the hard drive into another machine as secondary.... along with a good backup, don't want to lose that bit of speed bag history. Actually, have you ever considered creating a web site dedicated to speed bag history?

[atgatt]

Seems strange to me. Spokes are not made to take a side load like that. They're meant to work in a mainly vertical direction, not horizontal. I'm no expert, but I wonder not only how long it will last, but how solid is the rebound.

No thanks, not for me.

[Dutchman]

Seems strange to me. Spokes are not made to take a side load like that. They're meant to work in a mainly vertical direction, not horizontal. I'm no expert, but I wonder not only how long it will last, but how solid is the rebound.

No thanks, not for me.


Thus the reason why there are so few surviving. The rebound ring as we know it (the tubular metal and the rubber sleeved bar type) evolved and survived (and still available from at least one firm in Canada, that I'm aware of). The rest of them were beat into submission and disappeared.

[Dutchman]

Okay, I've just realized where I've seen the ad for this lately. It's currently on eBay
http://cgi.ebay.com/1929-EUREKA-STRIKING-BAG-BOXING-GYM-ORIGINAL-AD_W0QQitemZ390141885257QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_Defa ultDomain_0?hash=item5ad644bb49

[Speedbag]

Amazing. three models:

A Eureka, Cyclo an Lind stiking platform models.

[paranday]

Here's some information from 1903 on the Eureka platform, courtesy of Google Books.

[metaldad]

I just find it amazing the tools that were used back when to condition the body. How would something like that spoke platform be hung? What was the purpose of the spokes?

[Dutchman]

It appears that the spoked wheel concept was an attempt to reduce the weight of the unit, vibration and posssibly noise while in use. We can only surmise that it only acheived the first one, I can see that using the bags of the era would have put some serious strain on the outer rim resulting in premature failure of the spoke system.

As far as how it was mounted, it appears that a tubular "L" bracket with a flange on the wall end and what looks like a pipe flange on the platform center. This makes me how they delt with a lath and plaster wall, as I would think that it would only stay up on either a wood sheathed or masonary wall.

[Speedbag]

This is an odd one, and in nice shape. Would make a nice decoration to hang from the ceiling,,,

http://saltlakecity.craigslist.org/atq/1574324760.html

Maybe the seller would ship?

Here is some more Vintage Equipment : Sure wish I could fund a speed bag museum....

Vintage speed bag ring (http://cgi.ebay.com/Vintage-Punching-Speed-Bag-w-Support-Ring-Bracket_W0QQitemZ330403483984QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH _DefaultDomain_0?hash=item4ced951150)

Old Speed Bag Wall Ring (http://cgi.ebay.com/OLD-SPEED-BAG-WALL-FRAME_W0QQitemZ150411788515QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_D efaultDomain_0?hash=item23053dc0e3)

BALL IS A WILSON - H 1274

FRAME: HAS A WATER MARK TYPE MARKING OR AN OLD STICKER, NONPAR ????
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Old Spalding Bag and Swivel (http://cgi.ebay.com/Spalding-Punching-Bag-Boxing-Bag-with-Swivel-Hanger-Old_W0QQitemZ280462636455QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_Def aultDomain_0?hash=item414ce035a7) (* leather stap on swivel).
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1920 Spalding Ring and Bag: mint condition for age (http://cgi.ebay.com/RARE-Patent-1920-s-Wilson-Boxing-Speed-Bag-Wood-Frame_W0QQitemZ120526968082QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_D efaultDomain_0?hash=item1c0ff79512)


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Vintage 1940 Spalding bag (http://cgi.ebay.com/Vinatge-Old-Antique-1940s-Spalding-Boxing-Punching-Bag_W0QQitemZ190371421201QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_Def aultDomain_0?hash=item2c53055c11) (it's a whopper..)

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Everlast 4208 13x8 (BIG) (http://cgi.ebay.com/Everlast-Genuine-Leather-Speed-Bag-4208-X-Large_W0QQitemZ250577809714QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_D efaultDomain_0?hash=item3a5799f132)

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Antique rebound ring - JC higgins (http://cgi.ebay.com/Vintage-Speed-Bag-Punching-Boxing-Leather-J-C-Higgins_W0QQitemZ190370003044QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH _DefaultDomain_0?hash=item2c52efb864)

This is a really cool vintage leather speed bag made by J C Higgins. It has an S hook on a swivel, with metal ring and wood frame. This is ready to be hung. Great boxing decor for your sports memorabilia room/man room.

Metal ring measures just under 22" across. Speed bag is about 14".
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Rare speed bag (http://cgi.ebay.com/Vintage-Leather-Boxing-Punching-Bag-Antique-Old-Rare_W0QQitemZ200398632813QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_De faultDomain_0?hash=item2ea8b0776d) (attachment hook on bag, no strap)

and this from same seller

Old, Old, Old Bag (http://cgi.ebay.com/Vintage-Leather-Boxing-Punching-Bag-Antique-Old-Rare_W0QQitemZ350293095671QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_De faultDomain_0?hash=item518f1874f7)
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Vintage Bag from Australia (http://cgi.ebay.com/BOXING-VINTAGE-LEATHER-SPEED-PUNCH-BALL-DUNLOP-AUST_W0QQitemZ230376636734QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_De faultDomain_2?hash=item35a384813e)

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1950 Rawlings Bag & Swivel (http://cgi.ebay.com/Rawlings-29P-1950s-Vintage-Boxing-Speed-Bag_W0QQitemZ260548335024QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_Def aultDomain_0?hash=item3ca9e415b0)

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Boy if Bags, rebound rings and swivels could talk........

[metaldad]

Sure wish I could fund a speed bag museum....
You might be onto something there Alan!

[Dutchman]

There was a time not too long ago that you could have picked up just about any of those for ten or so dollars a piece. Now there are sports collectors out there that will pay some bucks for them, ergo the $65 + asking prices on a number of those bags. The Wilson bag on the NonParel rebound ring is great find and the person is just about giving it away. The local pickup is the kicker tho, I wish I was going through that section of Indiana soon. I'd love to add the 1940 Spalding to my collection. This place has listed a number of old school bags in the last year, and they inevitably wind up going for more than I can afford at the moment.

A striking/speed bag museum? Maybe it's time will come soon:)