speed bagging for boxing and speed bagging for fun

[tryme]

Is there much difference? I mean when your training for boxing you prob wont want to throw elbows etc on the bag but most of the other punching techniques you would more than likely use on the bag right? What about that monkey punching? You guys hate it but alot of boxers do it. When you kind of really swing your arms down when you make contact with the bag.

[Biff]

Tryme, it's all matter of personal preference. I bought a platform and bag just over 2 years ago and planned on using it as a supplement to my regular fitness routine. After searching the web and finding Alan's site and this forum, I soon found myself "wowed" by what could be done with the bag.

After a few sessions, I was hooked. I bought Alan's SBB and DVD, watched a boatload of YouTube videos, and the rest, as they say, is history.

There is nothing wrong with using the bag to train like a boxer. Boxers and trainers have been using it this way for years.

Most people on this forum take it to a different level.

Who's right, who's wrong? No answer to that question. It's all about what YOU want to accomplish.

[tryme]

Yeah I guess that's what i'm getting at. Not only that, I want to know what that punching technique is I spoke about and how to do it.

[atgatt]

tryme, I am one of the very few or only that uses the speed bags for a boxing exercise only. That is not to say that I've not tried the fancy stuff because when I did, my bad right shoulder really "talked" to me about such moves, so I stick with the boxing hits.

Still, I LOVE hitting speed bags even with just boxing hits; and, I also enjoy watching the talents of the people on this forum doing the fancy hits. Like Biff said, it's all up to YOU what you see is best. We're all one big bagging family either way.

[Mrs Mitts]

Yeah I guess that's what i'm getting at. Not only that, I want to know what that punching technique is I spoke about and how to do it.

Tryme,

Check out this link - a typical boxing style speedbag workout
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PJ82TzRl5VE

How to do it? - imagine you're pulling a rope over your shoulders with both hands. That's the action, you'll need to practise the timing and the speed will come.

[atgatt]

Tryme,

Check out this link - a typical boxing style speedbag workout
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PJ82TzRl5VE

How to do it? - imagine you're pulling a rope over your shoulders with both hands. That's the action, you'll need to practise the timing and the speed will come.

OK, throw stones at me. I am no "expert", but when I hit the bag "for boxing", I don't hit it with the bottom of my hands like the video shows. What does that have to do with boxing; I've never seen anyone punch like that. It makes more sense to me to mimic actual boxing moves on the bag. But then again, what do I know?

[tryme]

your right, I often hook the bag and throw jabs and straight rights and try to get that sound when you know youve got a good shot on it. Freddie roach explains it perfectly here with the left hook:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=63nDNWJAPc0

[atgatt]

your right, I often hook the bag and throw jabs and straight rights and try to get that sound when you know youve got a good shot on it. Freddie roach explains it perfectly here with the left hook:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=63nDNWJAPc0

Yeah, to each their own, but I favor just using boxing hits like you listed and a lot like this guy shows:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nuvM-i3mMew&feature=PlayList&p=02E38564D0454635&playnext=1&playnext_from=PL&index=21

The vid that Mrs. Mitts listed did show that guy doing some great, fast boxing hits in between his speed drills. The wonderful thing is, so much can be done with the speed bag and can be approached in so many ways and mixed in so many ways. Sometimes I am too "critical" although I may sound more serious than I really am, but the bottom line is, any way a person hits the speed bag sure beats not hitting at all. :rolleyes:

[Clubber Lang]

Different strokes for different folks.

Dr.Clubber Lang.

[Tim]

OK, throw stones at me. I am no "expert", but when I hit the bag "for boxing", I don't hit it with the bottom of my hands like the video shows. What does that have to do with boxing; I've never seen anyone punch like that. It makes more sense to me to mimic actual boxing moves on the bag. But then again, what do I know?

Granted it is not an actual boxing move, but it helps build endurance in the shoulders for keeping the arms up. At least I believe that's the purpose.

[Tim]

What about that monkey punching? You guys hate it but alot of boxers do it. When you kind of really swing your arms down when you make contact with the bag.

I don't hate it at all, I do that all the time. I'm thinking your referring to the front circle punching starting around :03 in the clip Ms. Mitts posted.

PJ82TzRl5VE

[riqal]

Granted it is not an actual boxing move, but it helps build endurance in the shoulders for keeping the arms up. At least I believe that's the purpose.

That is exactly right, Tim. The purpose of the speed bag for the boxer is to build shoulder strength and endurance so that a boxer's shoulders won't fail him or her during a fight. There are other routines such as the hand mitts, the double end bag, the heavy bag, and most importantly sparring sessions during which actual boxing punching can be practiced.

[Clubber Lang]

What about that monkey punching? You guys hate it but alot of boxers do it.


Of course we hate it.

CRUELTY TOWARDS ANY ANIMAL IS WRONG.

We use speed bags INSTEAD of punching monkeys. That is exactly why speed bags were invented.

Some people say that it does not 'feel' the same - how do they know? Maybe they engage in a bit of monkey punching at the local zoo when nobody is looking? Just so wrong. Plain wrong.

I think the reason why a lot of boxers monkey punch (to quote you) is because it involves a lot of footwork chasing the little critter around the gym in order to land a punch and as we all know footwork is very important for a boxer. Not so important for a static speedy baller. That is just one possibility to explain why boxers do it.

But it is still wrong and against the No Monkey Punching Treaty signed by every country in the world.

Col Lang.
Recon.

[dmarino61361]

Yeah, to each their own, but I favor just using boxing hits like you listed and a lot like this guy shows:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nuvM-i3mMew&feature=PlayList&p=02E38564D0454635&playnext=1&playnext_from=PL&index=21

:

Great video. Thanks for sharing. I like to mix it up and like the idea this guy shares.

Jason

[tryme]

Yeah I want to hit the bag like that from time to time, like the first thing he does on the bag, how do you do it? whats the punching motion actually called?

[tryme]

Yeah I want to hit the bag like that from time to time, like the first thing he does on the bag, how do you do it? when it looks like hes trying to "pull a rope" over his shoulders, do you do the same triplet rythem? whats the punching motion actually called? and its no the fcp i know that one is the 2nd thing he does.

[Tim]

Yeah I want to hit the bag like that from time to time, like the first thing he does on the bag, how do you do it? when it looks like hes trying to "pull a rope" over his shoulders, do you do the same triplet rythem? whats the punching motion actually called? and its no the fcp i know that one is the 2nd thing he does.

It's FCP , he's just alternating RIGHT arm then LEFT arm. Triplet rythm.

[tryme]

oh ok, thanks.

[crapshoot]

Wow! I came across that vid a couple of days ago. I like the first half with the large bag. That must be why the old bags were so big. Different use and routine. It looks a lot like the setup I have been using for my "frustration station". It's actually a soccer ball in a basketball net suspended from an I-beam. Limited to kind of focus shots to make it rebound off the beam and not go banging off the rafters.

If you want to make it a little more exciting, tie off a piece of leather shoelace to the bottom. If you don't move your head out of the way you get a nasty little whip-smack.

[tryme]

so how does speed bagging benefit a boxer?

[juxt]

so how does speed bagging benefit a boxer?

from what i noticed, i think it develops that quick initial snap for straight punches.

many believe that heavy weight lifting can cause boxers muscles to stiffen causing them to move less fluent and lose speed. The speed bag conditions your muscles in the opposit way.

also it can burn calories for weight loss and its a good aerobic exercise. It improves arm endurance in a fight, improves hand eye/ear coordination.

[jumpcannon]

Ever try to shoot basketball after lifting weights? Really hard! Same thing with the speedbag for me. I hit it for a good post workout sweat. Much more fun also! Plus chicks think its hot when i rip up the bag! Makes em wanna have my baby! LOL.....J/K!!!!!!

[PIEFURZ]

so how does speed bagging benefit a boxer?

To land a punch and get back into a defensive position quickly you need eye hand coordination and speed. The speed bag is great for this conditioning. Boxers use it also for the coordination where they will throw the types of punches and dodge the bag like if they were in a fight. Although I don't train to catch things, I find that if I drop something I can usually catch it because of hand speed that I've gained from baggin. Boxers don't jump rope in the ring either (they'd probably get called a sissy, although I wouldn't say it) but I'm sure it develops their footwork and endurance.

[Speedbag]

IMO the speed bag can help any sport, fitness or hobby activity that requires fast reaction time to hit, catch or intercept a moving target/object moving close to your face, as well as fast racquet or paddle sports.