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skiptomylue
04-27-2007, 12:07 AM
Should you use bag gloves or 14oz,16oz boxing gloes when using a heavy bag? what are the advantages? Which do you perfer?
use bag gloves unless u dont plan on ever using the boxing gloves to box or spar becuz the bag will make the boxing gloves real hard i have separate gloves for sparate activities. but if u dont plan on ever boxing or sparring i deffinalty prefer boxing gloves just feel better to me but ur running the risk of ruining them becuz they are not deignd to hit the bag. hope this helps
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Clint
04-27-2007, 03:45 AM
I prefer good quality 16 oz hook and loop training gloves. I like the extra hand protection they offer (I always wrap also, or use Evergel gloves inside the training glove) and I like the extra weight of the gloves for their aerobic effect.
If I could get a hold of 20 oz gloves, I'd probably use them also. Most bag gloves are about 4 oz. If you're wrapped well, hold your fist correctly, and punch on the correct part of your knuckles, then they're ok. Most people I know do prefer the bag gloves though. I agree with Nesticles about not using the gloves on the bags and to spar. A good quality glove won't get too hard from working on the bag, but the surface can get abraded and uneven.
Roscoe
05-25-2007, 02:41 PM
I prefer good quality 16 oz hook and loop training gloves. I like the extra hand protection they offer (I always wrap also, or use Evergel gloves inside the training glove) and I like the extra weight of the gloves for their aerobic effect.
If I could get a hold of 20 oz gloves, I'd probably use them also. Most bag gloves are about 4 oz. If you're wrapped well, hold your fist correctly, and punch on the correct part of your knuckles, then they're ok. Most people I know do prefer the bag gloves though. I agree with Nesticles about not using the gloves on the bags and to spar. A good quality glove won't get too hard from working on the bag, but the surface can get abraded and uneven.
Clint,
What brand gloves do you use?
Roscoe
hispanicmakingpanic
05-25-2007, 07:09 PM
I agree with Clint, the heavier the better. Not only does it offer more aerobically, but the hand protection offered by 16 oz. gloves will save your hands from jarring. I also own two pair of Ringside Mexican style 16 oz gloves that I only use to spar with. They are perfectly molded to fit your fist and promote power, but I never use them on the bag. I used to hit the bag barefisted and would not recommend it due to the stress put on the wrists.
Clint
05-26-2007, 08:35 AM
Hi Roscoe,
Over here in Hong Kong it's easiest to get gloves made by the Muay Thai companies. These are the two pair I use right now. Twins and King. Both 16 oz. Like HMP says, I like the wrist support from the wrist cuffs. The Twins cuffs are really stiff. The quality of the Thai gloves is fantastic and at about $40 U.S. I can't beat the price. You wouldn't believe the colors and styles available in these things. From 4 - 16 oz.
http://www.twinsboxing.net/glove/12oz/twins_boxing_glove_12oz.htm
http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f314/papadeep/twins_boxing-img600x450-1134044030t.jpg
http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f314/papadeep/king_boxing_gloves_16oz_red_white_b.jpg
Chris M
05-26-2007, 09:33 PM
My boxing coach is a big Muai Thai guy and he swears by the Twins brand.
ya i herd Twins is amazing to
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Clint
05-27-2007, 02:18 AM
My boxing coach is a big Muai Thai guy and he swears by the Twins brand.
I'm not into Muay Thai but yeah their gloves are amazing. I've tried four brands. Twins, Windy (same company, different brands) King, and Fairtex. Wish I still had the Fairtex. Lost 'em. Best pair I've had.
Chris M
05-27-2007, 08:06 AM
I'm not into Muay Thai but yeah their gloves are amazing. I've tried four brands. Twins, Windy (same company, different brands) King, and Fairtex. Wish I still had the Fairtex. Lost 'em. Best pair I've had.
Now that you mention it, he does have a bunch of Fairtex stuff too.
hispanicmakingpanic
05-27-2007, 05:48 PM
Agreed. I own two pair of windy shinguards and I swear by them. i wouldn't dare spar without them due to my chicken legs!:o
jaguiler
05-27-2007, 09:27 PM
hmmm reading this makes me think I should get a pair of good gloves....
I have the neoprene ones, and I like them.... but I would also like to try 16oz. Ihave a H20 Everlast bag...so the water is pretty soft on the hands... but I make my living with computers so the more protection the better
hispanicmakingpanic
05-27-2007, 10:59 PM
I envy you. Water bags IMO are the closest thing to punching a human. I have one, but it is stationary and I really don't use it for that reason. I used to own a cheap brand water bag and when I would land a power shot the water would shift and make a thunderous sound. Very forgiving on the hands as well. You oughta post a vid and let me see that bad boy.;)
jaguiler
05-28-2007, 04:38 PM
without any formal training, I fear my video would be a joke.... but I assure you the bag feels great.... just hope if does not spring a leak one day...:eek:
I tried some of the traditional bags in the store, and some felt like hitting concrete near the bottom... that is not what I was looking for in my workout... need my hands and wrists for work and racquetball..... I would just end up hurting myself, mostly due to my inexperience.
jmtii77
05-28-2007, 08:34 PM
there's a video of Pac-Man sparring floating around on youtube and i noticed that he is wearing a set of green Twins Special gloves and matching head gear! i've noticed alot of figters using them during training but, he is by far the most notable fighter i have seen using Thai gear! i use almost all thai gear, for training, because i'm an MMA guy. but, i swear by the Ringside (blue) international stlye glove for sparring! for bag work i wear my Windy 10oz (for speed work) and my Twins 18's for heavy work. i also like to use my MMA gloves at least once a week because they promote turning the fist over and striking with the proper knuckles. the skin on your hands gets torn up if you don't turn your punches over. i find myself getting lazy sometimes, with the big gloves on, and not turning my punches over like i should. i like to do this with figthers that i'm training as well and then look at their hands after the work out! LOL!
toolboxdiver
01-22-2008, 06:02 PM
I like 10 to 12 oz gloves for hitting the bag. I use 10 oz Reyes or 12 oz tuf wear gloves, I haven't tried any of the Muay Thai gloves yet
Jumpy
02-06-2008, 10:01 PM
Not to thread jack, but I was out looking for heavy bag gloves, when I relized that I should come check the board out first before buying.
I talked to a guy at a sports shop and he suggested the standard thin leather speedbag gloves for a heavy bag. I told him that I needed more padding, and something more like a 12-16oz glove. Never the less, he said that I didn't know what I was talking about, and he said that I shouldn't use boxing gloves on a heavy bag, claiming that I could/would break my wrist. I didn't want to call BS on him with out knowing more.
By the looks of this thread, it looks the guy at the shop was wrong.
By the looks of this thread, it looks the guy at the shop was wrong.
Ignore that piece of advice... you want "bag gloves". I use 10 oz or 16 oz. I've never even come close to hurting my wrist ( I have hyper extended the elbow once or twice)
Speedbag
02-07-2008, 01:46 AM
Not to thread jack, but I was out looking for heavy bag gloves, when I relized that I should come check the board out first before buying.
I talked to a guy at a sports shop and he suggested the standard thin leather speedbag gloves for a heavy bag. I told him that I needed more padding, and something more like a 12-16oz glove. Never the less, he said that I didn't know what I was talking about, and he said that I shouldn't use boxing gloves on a heavy bag, claiming that I could/would break my wrist. I didn't want to call BS on him with out knowing more.
By the looks of this thread, it looks the guy at the shop was wrong.
??? really?? YOU don't know what you're talking about?
Ask him how many hours he has seriously trained for combat sports, and how many rounds he has actually put in on "the heavybag" and in the ring. Then ask him how many of the real boxers in the real boxing gym were all doing serious bag training with those thin, mitten style bag gloves (http://www.ringside.com/detail.aspx?ID=25707) (ps. they suck for speed bag use also..). I suspect his real knowledge about this topic comes from standing in a sports store trying to sell the product he has on hand.
Serious competitive boxers usually don't use their sparring gloves for bag training. Bags tend to tear the leather of the gloves over time, and you don't want shredded leather hitting your face or your sparring partners. Perhaps that is what he meant about using "boxing gloves" on the heavy bag. Don't fall for the rest of his pitch. He is trying to sell product.
Get a quality pair of padded training gloves of 10-16 oz (http://www.ringside.com/DETAIL.ASPX?ID=25232) for serious heavybag work. There are lots of choices. You are more prone to injure a wrist from poor punching technique than because of the gloves you wear. If he really thinks that broken wrists are the results of the glove, he doesn't know what he is talking about.
Jumpy
02-10-2008, 02:42 PM
??? really?? YOU don't know what you're talking about?
Ask him how many hours he has seriously trained for combat sports, and how many rounds he has actually put in on "the heavybag" and in the ring. Then ask him how many of the real boxers in the real boxing gym were all doing serious bag training with those thin, mitten style bag gloves (http://www.ringside.com/detail.aspx?ID=25707) (ps. they suck for speed bag use also..). I suspect his real knowledge about this topic comes from standing in a sports store trying to sell the product he has on hand.
Serious competitive boxers usually don't use their sparring gloves for bag training. Bags tend to tear the leather of the gloves over time, and you don't want shredded leather hitting your face or your sparring partners. Perhaps that is what he meant about using "boxing gloves" on the heavy bag. Don't fall for the rest of his pitch. He is trying to sell product.
Get a quality pair of padded training gloves of 10-16 oz (http://www.ringside.com/DETAIL.ASPX?ID=25232) for serious heavybag work. There are lots of choices. You are more prone to injure a wrist from poor punching technique than because of the gloves you wear. If he really thinks that broken wrists are the results of the glove, he doesn't know what he is talking about.
Yeah, I tend to be a quite the laid back and non confrontational person, but the moment I asked for something more like that 10-16oz type of glove, he got agitated. I know that I don't know much about the sport, but I know when I'm being fed garbage, like this guy tried.
Those gloves look great. I'll probably give them a shot. Thanks.
On the topic of the speed bag gloves, while I can well understand wrapping the fist, those speed bag gloves are just silly. When I make a fist, they roll up at the bottom of the hand making a leather pointy cone. Thus every time I hit the speed bag with the bottom of my hand I feel like I'm going to puncture it. Now I go bare handed or use wraps only.
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