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BillyMack
04-27-2007, 02:33 PM
Any guesses as to what kind of wood this could be?:

http://losangeles.craigslist.org/wst/fur/319859713.html

Roscoe
04-27-2007, 03:41 PM
Well......it's certainly not morning wood

:eek:

BillyMack
04-27-2007, 03:44 PM
No, definitely not morning wood, I think 36" for morning wood would be stretching it..literally...

They guy said he thinks its oak or maple, was just hoping one of you "queer eye for the wood guy" types would be able to recognize it

SupergeZ
04-27-2007, 04:15 PM
chris will know!

BillyMack
04-27-2007, 04:21 PM
Ya, I was hoping Mr. M would know..althought its really irrelevant at this point as I already agreed to buy it (talked him down to $50)

Starting a new project this weekend, the speed bag platform of the future...

Chris M
04-27-2007, 04:33 PM
I'm definitely not "queer eye for the wood guy", but my guess is red or white oak, but it's hard to tell without seeing the grain.

BillyMack
04-27-2007, 05:06 PM
I'm definitely not "queer eye for the wood guy"

"Denial" ain't just a river in Egypt...

Imo pick it up tonight, if I post better pics you think you'll be able to discern?

Speedbag
04-27-2007, 05:20 PM
Any guesses as to what kind of wood this could be?:

http://losangeles.craigslist.org/wst/fur/319859713.html

I can't be sure, but by the look, shape and thickness It is the kind of wood that would be awesome with a speed bag bouncing off it.

;)

BillyMack
04-27-2007, 05:26 PM
hmmm, what a novel idea, Mr. Kahn...you practically read my mind...

I am trying to build a ceiling-mounted, height-adjustable, 360 degree-accessible platform as inexpensive as possible...

Speedbag
04-27-2007, 05:30 PM
hmmm, what a novel idea, Mr. Kahn...you practically read my mind...

I am trying to build a ceiling-mounted, height-adjustable, 360 degree-accessible platform as inexpensive as possible...


this appears to be an excellent choice.

I always wanted a 360 movement. Just to do punching step-throughs and cross overs.

Chris M
04-27-2007, 05:39 PM
"Denial" ain't just a river in Egypt...

Imo pick it up tonight, if I post better pics you think you'll be able to discern?

Get some close ups of the grain and the end grain and I'll definitely be able to tell you.

BillyMack
04-28-2007, 05:04 PM
Aight, here's some more pics. I picked up the table last night and wasted no time, stopping by the hardware store on the way home and picking up over $100 in stuff.

It's gonna be the mother of all platforms...

http://billymack.us/gallery/DreamPlatform


My girl was not real thrilled about me buying such a nice table just to dismantle it in the interest of the ultimate speed bag platform, so we ordered some Thai food and had dinner in the garage....then I went to work...

Kyle
04-28-2007, 06:16 PM
that looks amazing im sure it will work out very well
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Speedbag
04-28-2007, 06:31 PM
It's gonna be the mother of all platforms...

Best quote of the month. :D

Chris M
04-28-2007, 07:50 PM
Aight, here's some more pics. I picked up the table last night and wasted no time, stopping by the hardware store on the way home and picking up over $100 in stuff.



It's gonna be the mother of all platforms...

http://billymack.us/gallery/DreamPlatform


My girl was not real thrilled about me buying such a nice table just to dismantle it in the interest of the ultimate speed bag platform, so we ordered some Thai food and had dinner in the garage....then I went to work...



Billy, that's quartersawn white oak. Very expensive stuff. The wood is not particularly expensive, but the way it is cut wastes a lot of wood, but if you look at the grain, you'll notice a kind of "tiger stripe" that runs diagonal to the darker grain stripes. That tiger stripe is unique to oak, particularly white oak. Most sawmills don't like to cut wood that way even though they can (and do) charge more because they don't get as much wood out of a tree. However, the only way to see those tiger stripes (they actually call them rays, technically) is to cut the wood differently. Old time antiques from 100 years ago or more were made from quarter sawn white oak. Gustav Stickley http://www.webteek.com/search.php?sid=1&keywords=Furniture&keySub=Stickley made his furniture almost exclusively from quarter sawn white oak. I think they get something like 40% less lumber out of a tree when they cut it that way, but the grain is much prettier. I made a dining room table out of that exact same stuff, 1 3/4" thick that I had to custom order from a sawmill. Also, notice when you view the end grain it is all diagonal, instead of horizontal, which you would normally see in a table top. If it was straight sawn it woudln't be as pretty and the end grain would be horizontal.

You got a fantastic deal. I'll bet the wood just for the table top cost at least $300 or so.

Oh, another advantage besides the beauty of quarter sawn wood is that it is much more stable, that is, it doesn't move as much with the seasons that straight sawn wood does, which makes it ideal for furniture. Not that you have to worry about climate change and humidity fluctuations in So. Cal. like the rest of the country does anyway.

Looks great!

Chris M
04-28-2007, 08:08 PM
9899100

Here's some pictures of my dining room table that I made a few years ago from quarter sawn white oak.d

Sorry, I can't contain my enthusiasm about woodworking, I really enjoy it.

jason_m_amy
04-29-2007, 03:15 AM
9899100

Here's some pictures of my dining room table that I made a few years ago from quarter sawn white oak.d

Sorry, I can't contain my enthusiasm about woodworking, I really enjoy it.

Chris - you got some talent! I have the utmost respect for people who have the patience and skill to do things like that. Very impressed.

Billy - dam you! Now I gotta troll craigslist looking for a similar table. Never thought of cutting up old furniture to support a speed bag addiction. Excellent idea! Now I just gotta find a deal like you got...

-Jason

Chris M
04-29-2007, 07:03 AM
Chris - you got some talent! I have the utmost respect for people who have the patience and skill to do things like that. Very impressed.

Billy - dam you! Now I gotta troll craigslist looking for a similar table. Never thought of cutting up old furniture to support a speed bag addiction. Excellent idea! Now I just gotta find a deal like you got...

-Jason

Actually I've got much nicer pieces than that dining room set in terms of construction complexity and beauty of the wood. That was actually one of my first big projects. I made so much furniture I had to stop making big pieces because we just didn't have any more room in my house.

Thanks for the compliments Jason.

SupergeZ
04-29-2007, 11:04 AM
The quality of that dining set you made is superb chris!

GL with the project billy, should be an excelent platform if all goes well

BillyMack
04-29-2007, 02:12 PM
Thanks, Chris M. I ended up paying $50.00 for the table; the guy said his dad bought it new for $350 so I definitely got a good deal. I had the luxury of waiting for the right thing to come along at the right price. I don't have a lot of tools so I wanted to get something that was ready to hang.

I got most of the work done yesterday. I have all the hardware in place and hung the cable and pulleys, now I just have to design and install the terminals to make the platform adjustable. The wood alone weighs 50 lbs. so I may not need sand, but I have 100 lbs. just in case.

This will truly be one unique set-up. Besides being ceiling mounted instead of on the wall, this will be a full 36" in diameter and 2" thick of what I now know to be quarter sawn white oak. The platform will be adjustable with a 9" range, and can be pulled up to the ceiling should I need to use park a car in the garage.

There is a compression spring in each leg for several reasons: They help keep the platform level and help kill off any vibration. The added benefit is that the higher you crank the platform (for a larger bag) the stiffer it gets to compensate for the increase in pressure - pure genius :)

On-the-fly adjustments will involve un-hooking the main cable and hooking it to a lower or higher hook. easy money...

I'll post more pics and some video once I get her finished off...

http://billymack.us/gallery/DreamPlatform (page 3)

Thanks Jason and SupergeZ - craigslist is an awesome resource, especially in dense urban areas like LA or San Diego. I used the search terms like "solid maple" and "butcher block". The one I ended up getting was less than 2 miles from my house...sweetness!!

Chris M
04-29-2007, 02:25 PM
Looks really cool. I didn't see the compression springs but I think I know what you're talking about. The design is genius.

PS, your flag is backwards. The field should be in the upper left. Unless of course the photos are somehow flipped around backwards or if the flag is viewed mostly from the other side.

Sorry, the veteran in me saw that right away.

BillyMack
04-29-2007, 02:36 PM
Ya, the springs are in the lower legs. I used galvanized steel pipe, 1/2" coming down from the ceiling and 1" coming up from the board. I slid the springs into the 1" pipe but forgot to take a picture. Hopefully they will be evident when I make a video.

Ya, I know the flag is wrong. I threw it up there to hide the stuff in the next room over. I realized my mistake but have been too lazy to fix it. Hope you aren't offended. :)

Chris M
04-29-2007, 02:40 PM
Ya, the springs are in the lower legs. I used galvanized steel pipe, 1/2" coming down from the ceiling and 1" coming up from the board. I slid the springs into the 1" pipe but forgot to take a picture. Hopefully they will be evident when I make a video.

Ya, I know the flag is wrong. I threw it up there to hide the stuff in the next room over. I realized my mistake but have been too lazy to fix it. Hope you aren't offended. :)

No, I'm not offended at all, I just wanted to let you know.:)

Let us know how that thing works, it really is cool and should be a lot of fun.

SupergeZ
04-29-2007, 03:17 PM
that looks a beast! cant wait to see some videos of you tearing it up! GJ buddy