Double end Bag

[skiptomylue]

I am looking to purchase a DE bag. Im looking at under 60dollars. Im looking at the ones that come with every thing you need to set it up. Any suggestions? Thanks.

[BillyMack]

Ya, a big one is easier at first, and once you have it set up properly and get comfortable with it, it's quite easy to change it out for a smaller one.

Here is how I installed mine:
1. After deciding where I wanted it I mounted the top bracket first. I tied a nail to a 10 foot piece of fishing line and looped it through the top bracket. I let this hang creating a plumb line so it helped indicate where the bottom bracket should go. I found this easier than trying to measure over from the wall.
2. I mounted the bottom bracket directly into the concrete floor in my garage. I used a ceramic drill bit to drill the holes; easy money.
3. I placed plastic anchors in the holes and used the screws that came with the bag. This created the perfect amount of tension.

Here are some pics of my installation:
http://billymack.us/gallery/Double-End-Bag-Installation

Setting up the bag:
1. You can use bungee for the bottom rope, and a rigid rope on top OR bungees on both.
2. The ideal position for the bag is between your shoulders and the top of your head; you shouldn't necessarily center the bag between the ceiling and floor.
3. The most important thing about setting up the double end bag is making sure the bungees are loose enough.

Here is a great video to get you started:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HUCstF5LP_E


I have the Title 9" DE bag (black)
http://store.titleboxing.com/doubleendbags.html

[Speedbag]

I am looking to purchase a DE bag. Im looking at under 60dollars. Im looking at the ones that come with every thing you need to set it up. Any suggestions? Thanks.


You can also put a "rock" on the bottom to hold it steady. Here is a picture of a small DEB home gym setup (http://www.reeseweb.com/images/MartialArts/100_2305.JPG). (* note the nice speed bag setup in the distance right side)

Here is a different view (http://www.reeseweb.com/images/MartialArts/100_2302.JPG) of the same bag.

these pictures are from the home gym of Multiple Martial Arts Master Andrew Reese (http://www.reeseweb.com/MartialArts.htm)

[jaguiler]

make it easier than that - and works just as well as the other two above -
use a 25lbs weight on the floor side... the bracket the comes with the bag goes under the wieght, the bungee cord goes thru the hole in the center of the weight - much like the "rock" mentioned above....

[hispanicmakingpanic]

Great advice submitted. I see how this site is like a brotherhood in helping each other instead of hating and being negative like some other sites that I have visited. But I digress. Here's my tips, I hope they're of use to you. First off, the bigger the bag, the slower the response time like a speedbag. It's not a bad idea to start off with your basic "9x7" bag, which I beleive is the standard biggest size. Next is the cables. I have mine setup with two rubber cables that were included with my bag. You want to set up your bag so it's eye level when you're in your stance. Remember that the speed of your bag is controlled by the tightness of the cables, so you might want to leave enough slack to "time" it initially. As your timing and speed improve you can adjust the speed of your bag by simply putting knots on your cables until it reaches desired results. My last tip is one I learned from John Brown, the founder of Ringside, where I get my equipment. Basically the bag will be difficult to work initially and the best way to controll it is to make a "claw" with your hands and strike it with your fingertips for better control. I've included my video, hope it helps.
(http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r_XXLHjZXB0)
p.s. the whole setup was under 40 dollars.

[Tim]

I see how this site is like a brotherhood in helping each other instead of hating and being negative like some other sites that I have visited

Yep, in fact it's the #1 rule: http://www.speedbagforum.com/forums/showthread.php?t=185

We're trying to make this web site the best forum on the internet :)

[jaguiler]

very cool video Hispanic..... the man in the mask is a mysterious double end bag puncher... and he does a good job too..... what kind of gloves does mystery mask de bag puncher wear ?
I got some tips from your write up and hitting....very nice !

[hispanicmakingpanic]

very cool video Hispanic..... the man in the mask is a mysterious double end bag puncher... and he does a good job too..... what kind of gloves does mystery mask de bag puncher wear ?
I got some tips from your write up and hitting....very nice !

Thank you sir. The gloves the luchador is wearing are century 4 oz. MMA gloves I do believe. Usually I try to use 16 oz. bag gloves on my sway bag, but this video was shot on impulse. I was waiting on the Floyd vs. Oscar fight to come on and was giddy with anticipation, so I donned the luchador mask and made this vid to commemorate the 5th of may.

[Kyle]

this vid may help ya out to:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HUCstF5LP_E
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[Chris M]

Hey guys, thanks for all the tips. I have DE bag but I haven't really used it that much lately. Unfortunately I'm out of town on business and youtube is blocked from my work laptop so I can't view them.

I'll definitely be viewing them this weekend when I get home.

Hey welcome to the forum Hispanicmakingpanic! It's good to see your enthusiasm!

[hispanicmakingpanic]

Hey guys, thanks for all the tips. I have DE bag but I haven't really used it that much lately. Unfortunately I'm out of town on business and youtube is blocked from my work laptop so I can't view them.

I'll definitely be viewing them this weekend when I get home.

Hey welcome to the forum Hispanicmakingpanic! It's good to see your enthusiasm!

Thank you for your hospitality.:D

[jaguiler]

I think Tim had mentioned baout making a DE bag section on these forums.... how about it ?

We can also combine heavy bag and slip bags as well..... into one "Other Boxing Bags" forum.....
there is lots of info on the web on all these - but it is best if we could maintain an index here for them....

[hispanicmakingpanic]

I think Tim had mentioned baout making a DE bag section on these forums.... how about it ?

We can also combine heavy bag and slip bags as well..... into one "Other Boxing Bags" forum.....
there is lots of info on the web on all these - but it is best if we could maintain an index here for them....

Great idea. I was already wondering about the other bags, and it can only help develop a broader skill set.

[Speedbag]

Several years ago, one of the boxing compaines asked me if I could do a training video on the "other bags", Sort of an ALL BAG BIBLE.

I thought about it but thought it would be a little dis-ingenuous. I had never really used the DEB a lot, Mitts even less, never used the Slip Bag, and not really impressive on the Heavybag. I can use them alright, but can't really say watching me on any of these would give instant credibility. No one has ever come over to me in a gym and said "Wow, could you teach me how you hit the heavybag".

I decided to stick with what I know, and leave those bags to others more qualified. During the last year I've been playing a lot more with the "reflex bag" (http://store.titleboxing.com/title-professional-reflex-bag2.html) and find it very similiar to the speed bag.

[Chris M]

I agree it would be nice to have a section for other bags, even though you can't really do any flashy tricks on any of the others. You can't really develop a skill set on those bags that will make people in the gym stop and stare. That being said, I would welcome a new section for "all other bags" because I use my heavy bags a lot and like I said earlier, I do have a DE bag that I use infrequently.

[Jonzel]

Hey, I got an everlast DEB and it came with a ruber cord that goes on the bottom, and a nylon rope that goes on the top. I've noticed that some DEB's have 2 rubber cords, and suspect that with a nylon rope on top rather than a rubber cord the bag rebounds slower. Do you guys think it will make a significant difference if I replace my nylon rope with another rubber cord?

[Chris M]

Hey, I got an everlast DEB and it came with a ruber cord that goes on the bottom, and a nylon rope that goes on the top. I've noticed that some DEB's have 2 rubber cords, and suspect that with a nylon rope on top rather than a rubber cord the bag rebounds slower. Do you guys think it will make a significant difference if I replace my nylon rope with another rubber cord?

I noticed the same thing, and I opted for a Title setup that had the rope on top because I thought the rope would tend to make it a little easier to hit since the height after being hit at least will be a little more consistent. I wanted easier since I was just starting out. Here is the setup I got and even though they now say in the description that it comes with rubber cords, mine came with a rope on top:http://store.titleboxing.com/doubleendbags.html

I also got one of these for the bottom and filled it with a bag of gravel that I got from Lowes: http://store.titleboxing.com/ba-s.html

[hispanicmakingpanic]

Hey, I got an everlast DEB and it came with a ruber cord that goes on the bottom, and a nylon rope that goes on the top. I've noticed that some DEB's have 2 rubber cords, and suspect that with a nylon rope on top rather than a rubber cord the bag rebounds slower. Do you guys think it will make a significant difference if I replace my nylon rope with another rubber cord?

I have a ringside setup that came with rubber cables, but due to the heighth of my garage ceiling I had to experiment with some bungee cords that I bought at Wally World. They're pertty cheap but do make a significant difference, especially for your defensive maneuvers you get off the sway of the bag.

[aceboxing11]

ok i am going to purchase a double end bag but i have no clue how to set it up. If anyone can instruct me how to do so it would be greatly appreciated.

[Tim]

ok i am going to purchase a double end bag but i have no clue how to set it up. If anyone can instruct me how to do so it would be greatly appreciated.

It will probably come with something like this:
http://store.titleboxing.com/flra.html

along with the bungee cords, simply install the anchor in the ceiling and floor and thread the bungee through

[aceboxing11]

Well actually i was going to get the bag anchor so i didnt have to anchor into the floor.I also dont want to anchor anything into the celing so is there another alternative?

[Speedbag]

It will probably come with something like this:
http://store.titleboxing.com/flra.html

along with the bungee cords, simply install the anchor in the ceiling and floor and thread the bungee through

You could also use a wall hanger

http://store.titleboxing.com/hbhdw.html

http://www.ringside.com/detail.aspx?ID=25765

hope it helps.

[aceboxing11]

You could also use a wall hanger

http://store.titleboxing.com/hbhdw.html

http://www.ringside.com/detail.aspx?ID=25765

hope it helps.



ahhh thanks a bunch speedbag and everyone else who helped!

[Bagfree]

Recommend this (http://www.atafa.com/sports/advanced_search_result.php?keywords=Double+End+Bag s&osCsid=ofac8ed49jstjlm9nd71gccos0) for you. Hope it will work for you.

[sidecarr]

after reading this thread im ready to pick up a double end bag ,which one do you guys prefer the title bags or the everlast bags ,also if I was to attach two or more bags in line would this work ,noticed the double end peanut bags

[Brad]

I have a 9" Top Contender and 7" Everlast and I'm very happy with both. I paid $40 for the Everlast about one month ago, but I see they are currently at $50. I debated about paying $40, but I wouldn't even consider $50. I think the Top Contender was, and still is, $25. It's a great bag and the price makes it an even better value.

I've also had speed bags by Top Conteneder and Everlast, but both have been returned. The TC SB was very disappointing. Completely different product from the DEB. Made in China (versus India for the DEB), lower quality leather and poor quality control. The Everlast SB is pretty nice but it is a different (lower quality) leather from their DEB. Both are made in China, BTW. I intended to buy a Title SB but found the Everlast bags at $30 versus the usual $40, so I opted for an Everlast instead. I didn't like it as much as a Title and wound up exchanging it for a Title.

I haven't tried a Title DEB, but if they are like their SB's, You'll likely be very happy with it. I think they are currently selling for $30.

[sidecarr]

thanks will probably order a title bag next week

[Bounce]

Great tips here thx for sharing all