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hispanicmakingpanic
05-13-2007, 10:38 PM
Well I've been schooled on everything speedbag so far, does anyone have any heavy bag routines I can steal? I try to use the movement of the bag to set up dips and combos, that's why it's a bit high (like my platform). Please be kind with your comments, I'm nowhere near fighting shape!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=so5HZ89sSrs

Kyle
05-13-2007, 10:57 PM
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ronaldo
05-24-2007, 11:28 AM
Well I've been schooled on everything speedbag so far, does anyone have any heavy bag routines I can steal? I try to use the movement of the bag to set up dips and combos, that's why it's a bit high (like my platform). Please be kind with your comments, I'm nowhere near fighting shape!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=so5HZ89sSrs

Que paso! Hey I really like your setup and that bag looks really nice to hit. I have my heavy bag much lower and my wrists are starting to hurt so i will put it higher, I like the bag movement. good technique, the only thing i can criticise:p is your guard, keep your hands up more often bro :D
I love hitting my heavybag bag viciously with hard hits, my wrists are starting to hurt though. And I donīt know how bad for the wrist this is, Im gonna workout on the bag just once a week because of this. It sucks

Chris M
05-24-2007, 12:40 PM
What I do on my heavy bag is set up my timer for 3 minute rounds with a 30 second rest.

I start off hitting very lightly for the first two or three rounds, not hitting really hard at all, really just making light contact with the bag to warm up. During the rest period, I do 10 pushups and 10 or 15 crunches. After about the third round, I'm doing combinations and hitting hard with the following:

jab, cross, left hook
jab, cross, left low hook, left high hook
jab, cross 3 times fast
cross, left hook, cross
3 jabs, left high hook, right high hook.
2 jabs, cross, left hook low, cross, left uppercut.
left low hook, right high hook, left high hook, right low hook
etc.

I'll do these for three minute rounds for 45 minutes to an hour continuing with the pushups and crunches during the rest.

The last two or three rounds I'll do constant jab/cross as fast as possible trying to stay on the balls of my feet during the entire time. (this will really burn your glutes and back)

It's very tiring and a great workout! If I get really tired I'll go to the speedbag or double end bag during my 30 second rest period.

This workout will kick your butt if you do it at least 45 minutes or so.

ps, regarding the wrists, I'm assuming you've got some good wraps and gloves, right?

hispanicmakingpanic
05-24-2007, 01:29 PM
Hola Rolando buenos dias a usted y a todos los atletas de el speedbag forum. Thank you for the comments! I realize that I have my guard too low, this has been an issue for me since my amateur days. I tend to be a little too offensive in my technique as well. I will try to post a new vid where I will try and be more technical and defensive minded.
Chris I want to thank you for your regiment on the heavybag. I gotta say this sounds challenging and fun. If this is your regular workout then you my friend are probably a beast.

P.S. Rolando si usted necesita handwraps para sus manos deme su direcciony yo se las mandare. Tengo suficientes y no son muy caras.;)

jaguiler
05-24-2007, 04:57 PM
very nice !! looks good - good style and form.... not that I would know much, but it does look good. I wouldn't want to meet you in a dark alley, especially with those black teeth. ;) :p

has the bag hit you from behind yet when you dip under it ? :) is that why the walls are padded ? ;)

SupergeZ
05-24-2007, 05:16 PM
reckon you could put together a video of your heavybag routine Chris? sounds a pretty good workout

Roscoe
05-24-2007, 06:10 PM
reckon you could put together a video of your heavybag routine Chris? sounds a pretty good workout

I second that.

Roscoe

hispanicmakingpanic
05-24-2007, 08:46 PM
very nice !! looks good - good style and form.... not that I would know much, but it does look good. I wouldn't want to meet you in a dark alley, especially with those black teeth. ;) :p

has the bag hit you from behind yet when you dip under it ? :) is that why the walls are padded ? ;)

Yes actually I have come up from a dip and hit my head on the bag before. That is not why it's padded in my gym however. The reason for the padding was for grappling, A few months ago I was going to enter a local cage fighting event and I was training with some top level El Reno wrestlers to get ready. I ended up having an altercation unrelated to the event or my training where I damaged my knuckle and had to drop out. I still practice submissions when I have the time. Thanks for the comments!;)

Speedbag
05-24-2007, 11:07 PM
What I do on my heavy bag is set up my timer for 3 minute rounds with a 30 second rest.

I start off hitting very lightly for the first two or three rounds, not hitting really hard at all, really just making light contact with the bag to warm up. During the rest period, I do 10 pushups and 10 or 15 crunches. After about the third round, I'm doing combinations and hitting hard with the following:

jab, cross, left hook
jab, cross, left low hook, left high hook
jab, cross 3 times fast
cross, left hook, cross
3 jabs, left high hook, right high hook.
2 jabs, cross, left hook low, cross, left uppercut.
left low hook, right high hook, left high hook, right low hook
etc.

I'll do these for three minute rounds for 45 minutes to an hour continuing with the pushups and crunches during the rest.

The last two or three rounds I'll do constant jab/cross as fast as possible trying to stay on the balls of my feet during the entire time. (this will really burn your glutes and back)

It's very tiring and a great workout! If I get really tired I'll go to the speedbag or double end bag during my 30 second rest period.

This workout will kick your butt if you do it at least 45 minutes or so.

ps, regarding the wrists, I'm assuming you've got some good wraps and gloves, right?


YOU are beast. Hope I'm in your corner during a fight. This workout is flaming.

Chris M
05-25-2007, 06:00 AM
Hey, I never said I was moving very fast towards the end of the workout. My butt is kicked after 30 minutes of this. The last half of the workout is mostly heavy breathing!

Chris M
05-25-2007, 08:42 AM
reckon you could put together a video of your heavybag routine Chris? sounds a pretty good workout

My camera is not all that good, that is why I have never posted videos. I suppose it is time to look for one though.

I'll see what I can do, but really, heavy bag punching isn't all that spectacular to watch.

Besides, right now my heavy bag is in my basement and the lighting isn't that great. Taking pictures is one thing because of the flash, but I'm afraid the video will be too dark.

I'll try to remember to do that this afternoon though. I've got a lot going on right now and it's hard enough just to get in my workouts.

Besides, if I wasn't so busy, I'd be in Florida this weekend with Tim and Alan!

EDIT: On second thought, I'll post a video this afternoon. Today is my heavy bag workout day anyway. Just don't expect much, it's not exciting, kind of like watching someone do bench presses in my opinion.

SupergeZ
05-25-2007, 10:20 AM
sounds ace! cnt wait chris

pffft.. i spend ages looking at bench press videos on youtube when i was starting out 2 get my form right ;)

Chris M
05-25-2007, 08:46 PM
Okay, here you go. Be nice. I started off cold without warming up and I didn't really concentrate on form or footwork so....

http://youtube.com/watch?v=r95KrpG2ir4

Also, sorry for the sound. I had to downsize it because the original file was 218 MB.

Feedback please!

Clint
05-26-2007, 08:42 AM
Hey man, I liked it! Mean haircut and cool moustache to boot. What's the bag weigh?

Chris M
05-26-2007, 11:41 AM
Hey man, I liked it! Mean haircut and cool moustache to boot. What's the bag weigh?

Ha!

The bag is a 100 pounder. Sometimes I wish I had bought a heavier one.

The haircut is Army issue even though I've been out for almost 8 years now. I grew accustomed to it and I still prefer the low maintenance of that hair cut. Old habits die hard after 15 years.

Clint
05-27-2007, 02:14 AM
Ha!

The bag is a 100 pounder. Sometimes I wish I had bought a heavier one.

The haircut is Army issue even though I've been out for almost 8 years now. I grew accustomed to it and I still prefer the low maintenance of that hair cut. Old habits die hard after 15 years.


Know what you mean about having a heavier bag. I think a 125 pounder would be perfect. My company has a couple 100 pounders, and a couple of the full length Twins Muay Thai Bags I'd say are about 200 pounds. IMO good for kicking only if you're into that.

ronaldo
05-30-2007, 08:54 AM
Hey guys!
Nice video Chris! you got some good combos going :D

I have a 100 pound or so bag and I think itīs great, I hear a lot of people talking about the very heavy bags, why would you need a heavier bag for? this one you can punch and kick using the swing of the bag. And if you donīt want it to swing you can always attach it with a rope to the floor. I think my bag is already hard enough and heavy on the wrists

Chris M
05-30-2007, 09:10 AM
Hey guys!
Nice video Chris! you got some good combos going :D

I have a 100 pound or so bag and I think itīs great, I hear a lot of people talking about the very heavy bags, why would you need a heavier bag for? this one you can punch and kick using the swing of the bag. And if you donīt want it to swing you can always attach it with a rope to the floor. I think my bag is already hard enough and heavy on the wrists


The nice thing about this bag is that it's not hard at all. It just hasn't settled causing the bottom of the bag to be rock hard like some of the bags at my gym and the cheapie 40 pound bag that I bought at a garage sale. I'm keeping my fingers crossed that it's not going to happen to this Ringside bag.

Why a bigger bag? I would prefer that it not move so much. I do have one of those canvas bags filled with gravel that I currently use to anchor my double end bag, but I just haven't tried it on the heavy bag. My frustration is that I wish it didn't swing so much. Yes, yes, I know I should be using that movement to bob, weave, slip, etc., but I don't. Maybe I need to work on that more. Part of my problem as you may or may not be able to tell from the video is that my basment workout area is extremely small and I don't have a lot of manuevering room. I have some really nice maple trees in my back yard that would be ideal and I love working out outdoors, but I don't want to leave my bag outside all the time, seeing as how it's leather and it cost me a quite a bit. I'm too lazy to lug a 100 pound bag back and forth across my yard and setup a step ladder to put it up and take it down. I've thought about getting some plastic to make some type of thing to protect it from sun and rain when I'm not using it but it hasn't been a big priority for me.

Also, regarding soft bags, I don't really care for them. They have a couple of water bags at my gym and they're just way too soft for my liking, they give about 3 or 4 inches when you punch them and for some reason, those things always end up spinning like crazy too.

jaguiler
06-01-2007, 11:45 AM
I have no problem with spinning water bags... if they are spinning then you may be hitting incorrectly or the bag has a bad shape and should be easily fixed.

I am picturing a gazeebo in the backyard with work out equipment in it.... heavy bag, weights, speedbag

Chris M
06-01-2007, 02:26 PM
I have no problem with spinning water bags... if they are spinning then you may be hitting incorrectly or the bag has a bad shape and should be easily fixed.

I think it's because of the way these bags are made. Your hands kind of bounce or deflect off of them when you hit them. They're the only water bags I've ever hit though, but I hate those. It's almost like there is several inches of air with water behind that. I can't describe it, but the water bags they have at my gym are horrible.

hispanicmakingpanic
06-02-2007, 03:50 PM
I agree with Chris on water bags having a bit of give during initial impact. However, if you punch through the bag(not saying you don't Chris) you will feel the shift of the water and the explosion of the impact as the bag absorbs the impact. I'ts a little forgiving on the hands, but I think the shift it produces is lifelike and beneficial for commiting to your punch. Regardless, I think Chris's current bag is second to none and looks to absorb punches easily and hold it's shape well. My bag is a cheapie TKO bag I got from a friend. I've owned many punching bags, but this is a very stiff and solid bag since I overstuffed it with sand for a sturdier form. After recieving some good advice, and some negative feed, I posted a new heavybag video to address defense and power.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BrwBxbNoXPA

metaldad
06-11-2007, 03:03 PM
What I do on my heavy bag is set up my timer for 3 minute rounds with a 30 second rest.

I start off hitting very lightly for the first two or three rounds, not hitting really hard at all, really just making light contact with the bag to warm up. During the rest period, I do 10 pushups and 10 or 15 crunches. After about the third round, I'm doing combinations and hitting hard with the following:

jab, cross, left hook
jab, cross, left low hook, left high hook
jab, cross 3 times fast
cross, left hook, cross
3 jabs, left high hook, right high hook.
2 jabs, cross, left hook low, cross, left uppercut.
left low hook, right high hook, left high hook, right low hook
etc.

I'll do these for three minute rounds for 45 minutes to an hour continuing with the pushups and crunches during the rest.

The last two or three rounds I'll do constant jab/cross as fast as possible trying to stay on the balls of my feet during the entire time. (this will really burn your glutes and back)

It's very tiring and a great workout! If I get really tired I'll go to the speedbag or double end bag during my 30 second rest period.

This workout will kick your butt if you do it at least 45 minutes or so.

ps, regarding the wrists, I'm assuming you've got some good wraps and gloves, right?

cool!gonna have to try it. That last part sounds like a punch out drill I saw at rossboxing .com. I can only go for 30 seconds at a time with that drill.

metaldad
06-11-2007, 03:10 PM
The nice thing about this bag is that it's not hard at all. It just hasn't settled causing the bottom of the bag to be rock hard like some of the bags at my gym and the cheapie 40 pound bag that I bought at a garage sale. I'm keeping my fingers crossed that it's not going to happen to this Ringside bag.

Why a bigger bag? I would prefer that it not move so much. I do have one of those canvas bags filled with gravel that I currently use to anchor my double end bag, but I just haven't tried it on the heavy bag. My frustration is that I wish it didn't swing so much. Yes, yes, I know I should be using that movement to bob, weave, slip, etc., but I don't. Maybe I need to work on that more. Part of my problem as you may or may not be able to tell from the video is that my basment workout area is extremely small and I don't have a lot of manuevering room. I have some really nice maple trees in my back yard that would be ideal and I love working out outdoors, but I don't want to leave my bag outside all the time, seeing as how it's leather and it cost me a quite a bit. I'm too lazy to lug a 100 pound bag back and forth across my yard and setup a step ladder to put it up and take it down. I've thought about getting some plastic to make some type of thing to protect it from sun and rain when I'm not using it but it hasn't been a big priority for me.

Also, regarding soft bags, I don't really care for them. They have a couple of water bags at my gym and they're just way too soft for my liking, they give about 3 or 4 inches when you punch them and for some reason, those things always end up spinning like crazy too.

I hear ya about the cramped workout space. My setup is in the garage which is a 1 car garage. The bags are on a Century stand which takes up space. I would like a heavier bag myself. Mine is only 65#. You looking good!