Rival 6x4

[Clint]

I just received it today. This thing is so tiny. I guess Billy has one, so he knows. It's like the size of a softball. I inflated it and stuffed it in my pocket. I measured it and it really is 6" by 4"(with the loop!). It weighs a hearty 3 1/8 oz. Maybe I'm supposed to hit it with my finger :)

I'll try it out tomorrow and let you know.

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[Speedbag]

F-A-S-T looking bag.

those teenie weenies are quick for sure but difficult to do Downward Elbow Strikes. There has to be a bit of room between the board and bag belly to get the arm up for those techniques. Very short bags make this a lot harder.

and when you pass through front-to-back, linking the Front Circle Punch to the Reverse Single Punch (FCP ' ' RSP ) it is a very short fist extension, and happens really fast.

It is a cool looking little bag. Good luck with it.

[Tim]

I just received it today.

Wow that is tiny. Did you order it direct from Rival? Title carries the other sizes, but not the 6x4.

[Clint]

F-A-S-T looking bag.

those teenie weenies are quick for sure but difficult to do Downward Elbow Strikes. There has to be a bit of room between the board and bag belly to get the arm up for those techniques. Very short bags make this a lot harder.

It is a cool looking little bag. Good luck with it.

Thanks Alan. It's so light, I wonder how stable it will be. The loop is sewn on to it at a weird angle and I wonder, given its weight, if it will fly straight.

I like to watch all the stuff you guys do, but I've never really tried any of the elbow stuff or reverse stuff. I basically go as fast as I can with different combinations of front circle and straight punches in a triplet rhythm. Just basic boxing rhythms, but I have so much fun and I love it.

[Clint]

Wow that is tiny. Did you order it direct from Rival? Title carries the other sizes, but not the 6x4.

Hi Tim,

I ordered it direct from Rival and had it shipped to my family in Canada and they sent it to me in Hong Kong. I think Rival will send it to the States but they wouldn't send it to me here. I just had another look at it. Might make a good keyring.

[BillyMack]

Ya, Rival will ship to US but it costs a pretty penny and there's no tracking so ya just have to wait.

I think the loop is straight it's just the way the leather is cut at an angle that makes it look funny. Mine rebounds quite well, but thing is light and has a whole different feel than larger bags.

It's like smoking a light cigarette - hand motion is the same but you just don't get the resistance so you can move faster.

I still can't do a lot of elbow work on it. And not so much due to the proximity to the board but mroe 'cause of the speed - it's too fast and small to get the elbows on it. I can do it - but it's ugly

Anyway, it's a great little bag. It would be great for those looking for an ultra-quiet set up as the bag makes little noise

Enjoy it Clint!!

[Tim]

I couldn't stand it any longer... must .... try ... tiny speed bag....

I just ordered one. It was 44.99 CAD plus 24.99 CAD shipping, which is 63.75 US according to http://www.bankofcanada.ca/en/rates/converter.html

I hope it gets here quick. Title really should carry this size...

[BillyMack]

Welcome to the club! Mine took over a week to get to Southern California; there is no tracking available but you can email Stephanie who can check on it for you... stephanie@rivalboxing.com

[Tim]

I just heard from their customer support, the 6x4 is back ordered until August 2007 :(

Bummer.

[Clint]

Well I loaded up the little Rival today and gave it a thumping. The size isn't actually a problem. I can make good contact with it. The problem I'm having with it is the weight. It's simply too light at 3 1/8 oz. My next heaviest bag is the Cleto Reyes at 5 3/8 oz. those couple ounces make all the difference. There's no 'feel' to the Rival when I hit it.

I think there may be a point when a bag actually gets too light to actually 'cut' through the air at high speed.

I'll keep at it for a while. Who knows, maybe I'll change my mind. Might even try to 'weight' it somehow.

[Tim]

I'll keep at it for a while. Who knows, maybe I'll change my mind. Might even try to 'weight' it somehow.

I think you'll get used to it. The 4 oz bags I use felt ridiculous at first, but give it a week or so and you'll be ok.

If not, maybe you could deflate it and drop some lead fishing weights in, which would hopefully settle at the bottom where your fist shouldn't be hitting the bag.

[Kyle]

lead tape wud work to if u decide to weight it. use it on my golf clubs for a little extra weight it works great.
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[Clint]

lead tape wud work to if u decide to weight it. use it on my golf clubs for a little extra weight it works great.

I was thinking the same thing. Wonder if it would stay on the bottom of the bag or come flying off?

[Kyle]

uh i think it would be okay and if u want a little extra stability duct tape wud help.
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[Chris M]

When I first got my little Title Classic I felt the same way. I really thought at first it was more designed to be a novelty item than to actually be used.

It didn't take too long for me to get used to it.

[Clint]

When I first got my little Title Classic I felt the same way. I really thought at first it was more designed to be a novelty item than to actually be used.

It didn't take too long for me to get used to it.

I looked at the photos of the Title Classic you posted in the bag comparison. It doesn't look so small. I looked at the video Billy posted hitting his Rival 6x4 and even it looks bigger than the one I have. Maybe it's the angle he shot the video from though. Or maybe I've got a real runt. I'll have to post some pictures of it next to my other bags. I tried it again today and still didn't get much out of it. I'll keep at it. Thanks for the encouragement.

[BillyMack]

CLint0n-

It's probably the angle on my vid, check the still pics on this page:

http://billymack.us/gallery/Garage01?page=2

It's a totally different feel from a larger bag. Your muscles get used to the timing and resistance of the bigger bags, and then on the 4x6 it's like you're punching thin air. You have to have super fast hands and make very little movement.

Even Alan said my punches sounded weak on that vid. He may have been right, but I think it's just hard to get a good solid wallop on the bag...it's more like the stroke of a feather.

I have developed some combos that take advantage of the small size, I'll try to post something this weekend.

Keep it at it!

[Chris M]

I looked at the photos of the Title Classic you posted in the bag comparison. It doesn't look so small. I looked at the video Billy posted hitting his Rival 6x4 and even it looks bigger than the one I have. Maybe it's the angle he shot the video from though. Or maybe I've got a real runt. I'll have to post some pictures of it next to my other bags. I tried it again today and still didn't get much out of it. I'll keep at it. Thanks for the encouragement.

No, it's not nearly as small as the rival that you have, I was referring to how light it was and I know the feeling of the bag being so light it seems like it can't rebound properly.

[Clint]

Thanks Senior Brothers Chris and Billy,

I'll keep at it. I like trying out new bags often anyways. Maybe one day it will click and it will be my favorite bag. I think I'll pick up the Everlast 6x4. I like the look of it in Chris's photos. Can never have too many bags. Wouldn't it be great to have a wall of drums to hold them all. Just walk down the lineup and hit away?