its the best

[shaunx]

Feels great...especially if you have it blasting or just have your headphones on and your just beating the damn bag up.....feels like your doing new dance moves.

[Speedbag]

Feels great...especially if you have it blasting or just have your headphones on and your just beating the damn bag up.....feels like your doing new dance moves.


The easiest way to punch "with the music", where the bag beat is like a drum beat in sync with the song, is to simply pat your foot to the song, (which is the "beat") and then punch the basic rhythm, with every main fist punch landing "on the beat", when you tap you foot. In a few punches you will notice your LOUD first rebound will be on your foot tap, and you should feel the bag pulse as "in time WITH" the music.

Tim and Skunk started doing it at the Orlando meeting, and both cracked a smile when they "felt" that their beat was with the music. The song was old time classic Rock (Pretty Woman, by Roy Orbison), but it has a very definitive easy beat to hear and it's easy to punch with.

[Kyle]

UH OH does this mean were goin to see the Speed Bag Skunk Zach Ruffo getting into the market of hitting to music i cant wait. love watching someone in tune with a song.
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[Speedbag]

UH OH does this mean were goin to see the Speed Bag Skunk Zach Ruffo getting into the market of hitting to music i cant wait. love watching someone in tune with a song.

I wouldn't doubt that a bit. He has the rhythm and ear for it. He wants to be a "speed bag artist" and taking it to music is the best way to do it, (that's my opinion only..) He learned a few tips on that in Orlando. Got a few more to learn, but all things in good time.

[SpeedBagSkunk]

hey that CD you gave me didnt work can you please hook me up with a list of other songs that u recomend.

[Speedbag]

hey that CD you gave me didnt work can you please hook me up with a list of other songs that u recomend.

?? Its a DVD with computer files on it.

PM me with your address and I'll hook you up with a different DVD.

[Triffid]

Hehe... I too have been doing this. In fact, my routine wholly consists of popping in my mixed Elvis CD and trying to keep up. Hound Dog is still a bit fast for me to keep up the entire song... but its fun trying :D That and Jail House Rock are the toughest for me on the CD.

I enjoy songs that have a mix of beats so you can speed up, slow down, etc... like Devil in Disguise.

I like to work on "trick" type stuff for the slower songs (like reverse punches and hooks)... then just pound on on it with the fast songs.

[Speedbag]

Hehe... I too have been doing this. In fact, my routine wholly consists of popping in my mixed Elvis CD and trying to keep up. Hound Dog is still a bit fast for me to keep up the entire song... but its fun trying :D That and Jail House Rock are the toughest for me on the CD.

I enjoy songs that have a mix of beats so you can speed up, slow down, etc... like Devil in Disguise.

I like to work on "trick" type stuff for the slower songs (like reverse punches and hooks)... then just pound on on it with the fast songs.

Hound Dog and Jail House Rock would be a fast basic rhythm punching, probably on an 8x5 bag. I'll have to punch them up and see. You could also change punching "styles" to those songs and go slower with different combinations.

[SupergeZ]

maybee 'paint it black by the rolling stones' would be quite a good tune for a beginner to try hitting to? doing a basic rhythem to the back beat... jsut a thought. im gona try it when i get my new platform

[Speedbag]

maybee 'paint it black by the rolling stones' would be quite a good tune for a beginner to try hitting to? doing a basic rhythem to the back beat... jsut a thought. im gona try it when i get my new platform


Punching to Paint it Black (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xsCuANLMhS8&mode=related&search=) by the Rolling Stones would be a fast Basic Rhythm, or a very fast syncopated combo style. I would suggest an 8x5 to make it comfortable, (or smokin' on a 9x6). Probably a a little too fast for a beginner..

[ashe]

Punching to Paint it Black (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xsCuANLMhS8&mode=related&search=) by the Rolling Stones would be a fast Basic Rhythm, or a very fast syncopated combo style. I would suggest an 8x5 to make it comfortable, (or smokin' on a 9x6). Probably a a little too fast for a beginner..

grrr! removed for copyright BS! these frakkin' corporations are so greedy. they want a nickel every time someone even thinks about one of their products. :mad:

[SupergeZ]

heres the link i use when i want listen to the greatest song ever recorded :)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_EPjMNFZFwg

[ashe]

heres the link i use when i want listen to the greatest song ever recorded :)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_EPjMNFZFwg

i thought you meant this one! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RDfR0aQaINc&mode=related&search=)

got a nice beat... maybe someone should hit to it! :D

[Roscoe]

?? Its a DVD with computer files on it

Heh heh, I done that before with Stevie Ray Vaughn's box set of CDs....the last disk was a DVD and I tried and tried to play that sucker in my CD player till my neighbor set me straight.

Long ago are the days of my Camero and 8 track tape player.....not to mention Cindy Mae:(

[Johnny Pal]

I hope you don't have a tempo or meter problem. If you do, better pick up an instrument (piano, guitar, etc.) and use a metronome to learn to keep time.

The speed bag tempo is in "waltz time." Waltz sort of clashes with most rhythms. If you are a junior puncher, it's probably a good idea to start with a rock and roll beat. Although most rock songs are fast, they translate to "slow" when punching the speedbag.

More on this later.

Thanks!
Johnny Pal - Speedbag Ace

[Speedbag]

The speed bag tempo is in "waltz time." .....
Johnny Pal - Speedbag Ace

Actually, the "Triplet Rhythm", (which has the first beat [the punch] accented, and then two unaccented swinging rebounds) could be thought of as "waltz" rhythm since waltz rhythm is 3/4 time and the triplet rhythm is counted as 1,2,3,-1,2,3,-much like a waltz.

But as far as hitting to music, the two unpunched swinging rebounds are mostly irrelevant. The main punched accented beat is most important for that, and it can easily be used in 2/4, 3/4 or 4/4 time. And you can always change to the double punch (pass through) rhythm and be in time with all music time measures, 2/4, 3/4 and 4/4. You just have to know how to change the speed of your punching to sync the beats up together.

If you are a junior puncher, it's probably a good idea to start with a rock and roll beat.

that's true. It is pretty easy to punch in straight time, using just the four front punching techniques. Pick some older solid 4/4 beat rock and roll. Most of your 1950, 1960 standards. I think the reason for this is: there is not a lot of "funk" or syncopation in the beat to detract your attention. Just a solid easy beat to follow. Just tap your foot to the beat and do the basic rhythm to it. Every time your foot taps, your fist hits in the triplet rhythm. The unpunched swinging rebounds will add some interesting sounds, but mean nothing to keeping the beat. When you understand more about rhythm, especially rhythm counting, or IF you can feel the bag beat, you can also pass your fists though front-to-back or side-to-side in perfect time in the double bounce rhythm. That will give you more accented punch beats, but you can still stay in perfect sync with the music if you time it right.

.. Although most rock songs are fast, they translate to "slow" when punching the speedbag.


I'm gonna disagree with you on this one. I have found two distinct styles or ways to punch the speed bag to music. One is what I call straight time punching, and one is punching in syncopated combinations. The speed of either can range from very fast to very slow, depending on the beat speed of the music. Some songs punch slow in the basic punching pattern, but then jump to warp speed to use syncopated combinations. A quick example is punching to Foggy Mtn Breakdown (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u7aOoNo7Y58). notice from 0-33 seconds I'm punching in what I call basic rhythm style. Every main punch is ON the beat, and I'm punching at medium speed.
at .33 seconds, I completetly change punch style to the punching in "syncopated rhythms". To make the bag beats match the music, I have to punch a lot faster. I do this from .34 until about 1min 37sec, then change back to the basic time punching (to rest) until 1m45 sec, then finish in syncopated punching combinations.

I could elect to punch the whole song in the medium speed basic punching, or go much faster in syncopated punching. Some songs work just the opposite, where you have to punch much faster in the basic pattern but go slower to find the syncopated combinations to match.

The punching speed required really depends on the style of bag beat you want to keep. Most people "hear" and "feel" the basic punching beats easier until they understand how the syncopated punching combinations work. That is a little more complicated. :o

[Johnny Pal]

Thanks for da great comments Alan. Flavor me a do and put on a 40's big band swing record and see how well it works you. Yes, you can double up the rebound on any meter whether it be rock, salsa, swing, etc. Your analysis is deep, but can we dumb it down a tad - we seem to be getting wrapped around the axle with technicalities. Punching aficionados can just put the music on and see how it drives them. Many may not understand your abstruse analysis of meter. So before we talk them out of any approach, give them a chance to try what one is trying to impart.

Seen your work guy - solid as a hickory stick.

Johnny Pal - Speedbag Ace

[BillyMack]

Where in LA are you? I live in Santa Monica and work in San Marino. Do you ever make it to Venice Beach? I could meet you there with a ghetto blaster sometime and we can hit to music together....lemme know!

[Speedbag]

Thanks for da great comments Alan. Flavor me a do and put on a 40's big band swing record and see how well it works you...

Johnny Pal - Speedbag Ace

No problem. Big Band era swing (http://hometown.aol.com/cle1019/index.htm) is easy and basic rhythm punching fits it perfectly. Especially when the song has an accent emphasis on the "2" and "4" beat, which most do.

a few suggestions might be: Boogie Woogie Bugle Boy (http://members.aol.com/cle1019/wbugleboy.wav) or string of pearls (http://members.aol.com/cle1019/wstrgpearls.wav) or Chattanooga Cho Cho (http://members.aol.com/cle1019/wchatnoga.wav)

Of course, I'm personally prejudiced to the Bands like Benny Goodman that featured the big drum tunes such as Sing Sing Sing (http://members.aol.com/cle1019/wsingsing.wav) with Gene Krupa.

Most of these tunes aren't very fast by modern standards, so the speed bag punching isn't real fast (not that it matters, unless you just have to punch fast...)

[metaldad]

Until I can do it myself, I wanna see someone hit to Chimaira's "The Dehumanizing Process" or "Pure Hatred" Hell anything from Chimaira, Slayer or Cannibal Corpse:cool:

[Johnny Pal]

No problem. Big Band era swing (http://hometown.aol.com/cle1019/index.htm) is easy and basic rhythm punching fits it perfectly. Especially when the song has an accent emphasis on the "2" and "4" beat, which most do.

a few suggestions might be: Boogie Woogie Bugle Boy (http://members.aol.com/cle1019/wbugleboy.wav) or string of pearls (http://members.aol.com/cle1019/wstrgpearls.wav) or Chattanooga Cho Cho (http://members.aol.com/cle1019/wchatnoga.wav)

Of course, I'm personally prejudiced to the Bands like Benny Goodman that featured the big drum tunes such as Sing Sing Sing (http://members.aol.com/cle1019/wsingsing.wav) with Gene Krupa.

Most of these tunes aren't very fast by modern standards, so the speed bag punching isn't real fast (not that it matters, unless you just have to punch fast...)


OWWWW DAS WHAT I'M TAUKIN BOUT!!!! FIRE T'UP!!

[Johnny Pal]

Alohaa Billy - Brah, used to slam da kine at Venice Beach back in da day - ha, ha was kicked out a number of times cuz dem tennis players don't dig rebound noise. Also got tired of bringing my own swivel, bolts and nuts cuz them suckers beat up or steal the swivels at nite. Kick it once in a while at a gym in Carson where there are some stable wall mounts. Usual problems though with good swivels, ya know, those clunky rhythm bustin chain-link ones really suck; also problems with swivel not fitting the gym's swivels.

Bust em up brah.
Johnny Pal

[Johnny Pal]

Thas what I'm taukin bout Alan . . . Fire it up with some stimulatin sounds.

[metaldad]

I will eventully hit to Chimaira, Slayer Exodus,Hatebreed etc.......til then i'll keep hearing it in my head, there's other genres; funk, hip hop, acid jazz, that get my respect, but I'm fixated on the metal!!!!! Always have been:D

[Speedbag]

I will eventully hit to Chimaira, Slayer Exodus,Hatebreed etc.......til then i'll keep hearing it in my head, there's other genres; funk, hip hop, acid jazz, that get my respect, but I'm fixated on the metal!!!!! Always have been:D


I gotta admit, I'm not up on the later or modern metal bands. I can't say I've heard of any songs those bands play, ( at least no off hand that I can remember...). I'll have to see if I can find some and punch 'em up and see how they do....