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  • paranday
    Speed Bag Guru
    • Sep 2009
    • 2515

    vintage BENLEE swivel - eBay

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    Last edited by paranday; 04-13-2013, 12:21 PM.
  • fedora
    Speed Bag Guru
    • Dec 2012
    • 471

    #2
    The style is pretty much like the vintage one I bought a while back. This one has more detail in the metal work though. Very classy looking. With the large bell shaped base and the metal on metal, mine sounds like a freight train coming down the tracks. . I'm guessing this one would be the same. Any idea on what it dates to?

    fedora
    Last edited by fedora; 04-13-2013, 08:40 PM.

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    • Dutchman
      Speed Bag Historian
      • Jun 2006
      • 1906

      #3
      Benlee was one of the many New York City sporting goods manufacturers, it's life seems to span from the mid 1920's until the early to mid 1950's. This style swivel I would say dates from at least the late 1930's up through the late 40's. After that their swivels looked like copies of the Everlast ball & hook swivels (much like what the TufWear ones looked like when they were in Brooklyn). They appear to have been active in the 1950's, having been granted a patent for an improved boxing glove in the early 50's, I've not found any evidence so far of them still being in business in the 1960's. Whether they simply folded or were swallowed up by one of the other firms at this time I can't confirm, but it's on the research list.

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      • Speedbag
        Author of the Speed Bag Bible, founder of speedbagcentral.com

        • Feb 2006
        • 7110

        #4
        Originally posted by Dutchman View Post
        Benlee was one of the many New York City sporting goods manufacturers, it's life seems to span from the mid 1920's until the early to mid 1950's. This style swivel I would say dates from at least the late 1930's up through the late 40's. After that their swivels looked like copies of the Everlast ball & hook swivels (much like what the TufWear ones looked like when they were in Brooklyn). They appear to have been active in the 1950's, having been granted a patent for an improved boxing glove in the early 50's, I've not found any evidence so far of them still being in business in the 1960's. Whether they simply folded or were swallowed up by one of the other firms at this time I can't confirm, but it's on the research list.
        Actually, it looks exactly like the Nichols swivel.


        But just for fun.....I'll play. Let's see how high it goes.
        Last edited by Speedbag; 04-20-2013, 04:40 PM.
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        • Dutchman
          Speed Bag Historian
          • Jun 2006
          • 1906

          #5
          It could very well have been made from the same patterns, as I'm still trying to ascertain when Nichols went out of business (my gut says the 1930's).

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          • Bag Man
            Senior Member
            • Jan 2011
            • 182

            #6
            Originally posted by Dutchman View Post
            Benlee was one of the many New York City sporting goods manufacturers, it's life seems to span from the mid 1920's until the early to mid 1950's. This style swivel I would say dates from at least the late 1930's up through the late 40's. After that their swivels looked like copies of the Everlast ball & hook swivels (much like what the TufWear ones looked like when they were in Brooklyn). They appear to have been active in the 1950's, having been granted a patent for an improved boxing glove in the early 50's, I've not found any evidence so far of them still being in business in the 1960's. Whether they simply folded or were swallowed up by one of the other firms at this time I can't confirm, but it's on the research list.
            I vaguely recall reading somewhere that Ben Lee was started by a group that split off from Everlast. Both Marciano and Walcott are wearing their equipment in their first fight (1952). I assume that for their equipment to be used in a HW title fight needed to have some fairly well established inroads by the early 1950s.

            I purchased the same swivel a year or so back. Other than cosmetics, pretty much the same in terms of quality as similar swivels of that design.
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            • fedora
              Speed Bag Guru
              • Dec 2012
              • 471

              #7
              SOLD: $30.00 Not too bad a price. Anyone here get it?

              fedora

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              • Zaza
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                • Apr 2011
                • 2000

                #8
                not me.... would have been nice, but every spare penny I have is going towards the film!
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                • Speedbag
                  Author of the Speed Bag Bible, founder of speedbagcentral.com

                  • Feb 2006
                  • 7110

                  #9
                  Originally posted by fedora View Post
                  SOLD: $30.00 Not too bad a price. Anyone here get it?

                  fedora
                  oh gee.....

                  looks like it belongs to me. Don't tell my wife.... My "max bid" was more than that....
                  Last edited by Speedbag; 04-20-2013, 04:41 PM.
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                  • Speedbag
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                    • Feb 2006
                    • 7110

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Zaza View Post
                    not me.... would have been nice, but every spare penny I have is going towards the film!
                    Hey Za, if you want to use this an some other old swivels in the film (put 'em up on your board and try them...) it could be arranged.

                    I'm thinking at the gathering this year we need one set up for "historical equipment",.....setups from days gone by.
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                    • Dutchman
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                      • Jun 2006
                      • 1906

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Speedbag View Post
                      oh gee.....

                      looks like it belongs to me. Don't tell my wife.... My "max bid" was more than that....
                      Your secret is safe with me

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                      • Speedbag
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                        • Feb 2006
                        • 7110

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Dutchman View Post
                        Your secret is safe with me
                        I'll send it out to you if you want to inspect it.
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                        • Zaza
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                          • Apr 2011
                          • 2000

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Speedbag View Post
                          Hey Za, if you want to use this an some other old swivels in the film (put 'em up on your board and try them...) it could be arranged.

                          I'm thinking at the gathering this year we need one set up for "historical equipment",.....setups from days gone by.
                          So we were bidding against each other....D'OUGH!
                          Glad you got it because Lord knows you don't have enough of them!
                          So...yes, please send a few of the 'old boys' my way when you get a chance. I might even send them back.
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                          • Speedbag
                            Author of the Speed Bag Bible, founder of speedbagcentral.com

                            • Feb 2006
                            • 7110

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Zaza View Post
                            So we were bidding against each other....D'OUGH!
                            Glad you got it because Lord knows you don't have enough of them!
                            So...yes, please send a few of the 'old boys' my way when you get a chance. I might even send them back.
                            Sorry, didn't know it was you. It can certainly make a pass through your place also. It looked to be in better shape than the one of my old nichols.

                            Actually, I have two nichols now that I check and one is in pretty good shape and looks exactly like this benlee. I'll put up a few comparison pics when it gets here.
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                            • Speedbag
                              Author of the Speed Bag Bible, founder of speedbagcentral.com

                              • Feb 2006
                              • 7110

                              #15
                              Benlee swivel showed up today, in excellent condition. Looks exactly like my Nichols swivel. In fact the only appreciable difference is the base sections, with the nichols swivel having a bit more ornate design. Otherwise they appear in construction and size to be exactly the same.

                              pictures to follow after I take them.....

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