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  • Kevdawg0324
    Senior Member
    • Oct 2006
    • 146

    Combo

    A combo that i dont seem to know what to call. http://youtube.com/watch?v=CcKbpsZrttE

    Heres the one i was actually trying to do in the video above. http://youtube.com/watch?v=xRrkMK-nLKM
    Last edited by Kevdawg0324; 06-21-2007, 12:49 PM.
  • SupergeZ
    Speed Bag Guru
    • Mar 2007
    • 282

    #2
    damn your good! so fast, and accurate.. a pleasure to watch!

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    • Kevdawg0324
      Senior Member
      • Oct 2006
      • 146

      #3
      After a suggestion by King Kahn! http://youtube.com/watch?v=wsM0j6EaHNg

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      • Speedbag
        Author of the Speed Bag Bible, founder of speedbagcentral.com

        • Feb 2006
        • 7109

        #4
        Originally posted by Kevdawg0324 View Post
        After a suggestion by King Kahn! http://youtube.com/watch?v=wsM0j6EaHNg
        Yes, that is a very awesomely nice combo.

        We're not done.....

        Now, lets do a couple of things.

        1. in the middle of the combo, Drop the F-Roll. Make the Reverse Fist Roll (R-Roll) your home position. Go From the R-Roll to the
        D-TES, directly back to the R-Roll. [ R-Roll ' ' D-TES ' ' R-Roll ]

        2. I noticed you always led the D-TES with your left fist. Alternate that lead fist. The secret is in the R-Roll. The last fist to hit in the R-Roll will lead the D-TES. It is almost easier to pull them both to the front (like a RDP) at the same time. that way, the first fist to come foreward raises up to high for the Downward Elbow, and the second fist coming front will just pass reverse-to-front to lead the D-TES.

        (* I'm trying to get you to build more control of the Reverse Roll and more command of using either fist leading...)

        When you can continuosly R-Roll, and do alternating lead D-TES, then throw in the Outward-Triple Elbow for variety. the same R-Roll combo will work with that. Alternated
        R-Roll ' ' D-TES ' ' R-Roll ' ' O-TES ' ' R-Roll ' ' D-TES ' F-Roll.

        Just so you understand, when you do a D-TES ' F-Roll, the last fist of the D-TES is also starting the Roll, and it is an advanced front punching combo, which you do very nicely

        I'm really impressed with your ability and control.
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        • Kevdawg0324
          Senior Member
          • Oct 2006
          • 146

          #5
          im going to try it right now. will have something on here hopefully tonight! thanks Mr. Speedbag!

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          • hispanicmakingpanic
            Senior Member
            • May 2007
            • 219

            #6
            Man you're damn good, smooth and accurate... another contender

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            • Kevdawg0324
              Senior Member
              • Oct 2006
              • 146

              #7
              another combo. i dont think i did it right though. http://youtube.com/watch?v=5X5f10HJ9KI

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              • BillyMack
                • Sep 2006
                • 310

                #8
                right or wrong, man, that's some dope baggin!!

                you're able to do it with both hands and it looks great so you own it...

                thanks for the inspiration!!

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                • Speedbag
                  Author of the Speed Bag Bible, founder of speedbagcentral.com

                  • Feb 2006
                  • 7109

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Kevdawg0324 View Post
                  another combo. i dont think i did it right though. http://youtube.com/watch?v=5X5f10HJ9KI
                  Hey Kev,

                  You did it right. Just a bit weak on the R-Roll to the front change over. Do it slow, (it's not a race...). Also do the R-Roll to the Outward-Triple ES. Same set up, in that the last fist of the Roll will lead the ES but it will be the Elbow, so you will have to pull the hands back under the ear, and turn the body a little to get the elbow in position to lead.

                  When you can do that pretty smooth, we'll start going from the Reverse Roll to a few side techniques.
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                  • Kevdawg0324
                    Senior Member
                    • Oct 2006
                    • 146

                    #10
                    my reverse fist roll is a bit weak. i hear you say its still correct to do it straight punch style instead of rolling style. true?

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                    • Speedbag
                      Author of the Speed Bag Bible, founder of speedbagcentral.com

                      • Feb 2006
                      • 7109

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Kevdawg0324 View Post
                      my reverse fist roll is a bit weak. i hear you say its still correct to do it straight punch style instead of rolling style. true?
                      What specific combo or technique are you referring to?

                      Usually it's neither right or wrong to use one fist position over the other, just easier for certain combo's.
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                      • Kevdawg0324
                        Senior Member
                        • Oct 2006
                        • 146

                        #12
                        i was referring to the reverse fist roll. i also have the new combo suggested with otes. http://youtube.com/watch?v=k9fHuVoGBN0

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                        • Kyle
                          Speed Bag Guru
                          • Nov 2006
                          • 581

                          #13
                          wow lookin good very accurate and fast great job
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                          Last edited by Kyle; 09-11-2011, 06:29 AM.

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                          • BillyMack
                            • Sep 2006
                            • 310

                            #14
                            tight man, i think the otes leads with the elbow like you're doing in the video

                            it would look cool if you could do 2 otes strikes back to back off one rebound leading with each hand, then go back into the R-roll....

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                            • Speedbag
                              Author of the Speed Bag Bible, founder of speedbagcentral.com

                              • Feb 2006
                              • 7109

                              #15
                              Originally posted by BillyMack View Post
                              tight man, i think the otes leads with the elbow like you're doing in the video

                              it would look cool if you could do 2 otes strikes back to back off one rebound leading with each hand, then go back into the R-roll....
                              Now THAT would be very difficult (not for BillyMack or Skunk, probably... so give me some salt to make the crow go down easier....:)

                              but it would be very difficult to do a FSP or FCP (last fist of the O-TES) across the body to position the elbow for the lead after one rebound.

                              The OTES contact order is: Elbow-Fist-Fist. If that was a Left Elbow, left fist Right Fist, then you would have to lead back with the right outward elbow after one rebound. It is not a natural set up, but you Could do a few variations. BM, you were doing a cross body OTES after a FSP very nicely
                              (Left-FSP, Right leading OTES. or you were doing it off a F-Roll, which uses the FCP fist position. that would be a L-FCP, Right Elbow leading OTES after one rebound. In that case, after the OTES, you could add the other fist as a FCP in after one rebound,

                              L-L\ R ....L...,.R-R\L
                              O-TES ' FCP ' OTES ' ' R-Rolll
                              e-f \f........e-f\f

                              That Left FCP gives you two rebounds instead of one to get the elbow across the body. (* personally, I think a FSP gives me a better rebound angle for this combo. A Left-FSP will give the exact same rebound angle as the Right - Outward elbow, so you may have a larger margin of error. I would probably do a FSP instead of the FCP)


                              Then again, you could just do a Downward Triple, using the last fist of the O-TES as the lead fist of the DTES, or just double that fist with one rebound.
                              that works a lot better.

                              L-L\ R....R\L-L
                              O-TES ' DTES ' ' R-Roll
                              e-f \f....f\e-f
                              Speed Bag

                              Put a little Rhythm in YOUR workout!
                              *attendee: Every SB gathering so far!
                              The Quest Continues...
                              Hoping for another Gathering...


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