Speedboy clip 10/05/06

[speedboy]

hi i have done a new video trying to progress with the left hand:)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YlS_LTK745w

byeeee:)

[Speedbag]

Very nice hitting. Smooth and even. Good speed and good arm positions.

You might move foreward just a bit closer to the bag. Your distance away from the bag makes you lean forward and reach to get behind with both fists on the Reverse Double Punch at about 19 or 20secs in. You also rotated your Reverse Double punch fist order, but that's OK. Just a variation. A more difficult variation but no problem.

Another suggestion. When you do your Downward-Single Elbow Strike, (D-SES) try extending your fist slightly forward as the elbow connects. The bag will rebound into your fist (automatically) and this will make it the Downward-Double Elbow Strike. (D-DES).
as your fist makes contact, be raising your elbow up and out to parallel again and you can link it directly to Reverse Single Punching.

But as it is, Great progress!

[speedboy]

thanks i have some problems with the Downward-Double Elbow Strike on the left elbow but i will try

[Tim]

Looking good :)

[Speedbag]

thanks i have some problems with the Downward-Double Elbow Strike on the left elbow but i will try

Do the motion slowly without the bag. raise arm up, point elbow in and move in downward. slightly extend the fist as you do this. When your fist is at you chin level, reposition the elbow "out" to the home position. The fist extension is a very small and subtle movement.

Then do it slowly on the bag. get the bag going first, slowly, with right fist Front Circle Punches while your left arm gets in position.
(;) it is harder to do this on a non-moving bag..)

You can see the movement in normal and slow motion here in "speed bag combinations" videoclips #5 & #6. (http://www.speedbagcentral.com/ssp/multimedia?type=vid_2&c=3&p=1&clientId=55)

Hope it helps.

[Mkvtte92]

I everyone, I'm new and I'm liking what I've seen so far!!!!!
Lot's of great info to absorb!!!!!

Mike



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TqLfxDmN8bQ

[Speedbag]

I everyone, I'm new and I'm liking what I've seen so far!!!!! Lot's of great info to absorb!!!!!

Mike

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TqLfxDmN8bQ

Very good timing and mix of combinations. You keep a good smooth Basic Rhythm, Very nice front Fist Rolling (F-Roll), and smooth Front Double Punching (FDP). You've got those down well enough to start adding in some different or new techniques. Bag appears a little high to pass through behind easily, but it could be done.

Great job. In the next video, If you can, either move the camera back or zoom out a bit so we can see your whole body, ( shoulders and back). It is hard to see your arm position and swing motions with the closer zoom angle. (just a suggestion..)

[ryzies]

alan, any tips on the fdp i can't seem to get it at all....i can do outward elbows and downward elbows combo'd like you were talking about above but i can't get this double punch...till i get your video and book i'm on my own for learning...hehe...so any help would be great...

[Tim]

MkVtte92 - Looking good. You've got some good rythm going.

Ryzies - The key to the FDP is to move both fists as one motion, don't think of it as two separate swings, try to move both hands in unison, with the left staggered slightly after the right, or vice versa.

It's one of those moves you just have to practice, and practice, and practice, and all of a sudden you'll have it and then it seems easy.

This clip has FDP in it, and in slow mo
http://www.speedbagforum.com/movies/Tim20060404.wmv

[speedboy]

MkVtte92 you have a great technique and you have much more endurance than me! i must progress into it

[Speedbag]

alan, any tips on the fdp i can't seem to get it at all....i can do outward elbows and downward elbows combo'd like you were talking about above but i can't get this double punch...till i get your video and book i'm on my own for learning...hehe...so any help would be great...

Tim is correct. Move both fists together, staggered. Here is a setup tip:

Put one fist up by your mouth, put the other fist about an inch or so in front of it and about half a hand lower. So, your lead fist is about six inches from your mouth, and just a little above it is your second fist.

Moving both fists together would be similiar to doing a front circle punch with both fists at the same time lined up one behind the other. After the second fist hits the bag, they can naturally change position.

You will find the secret is the distance between the fists. This distance and the timing of movements will change depending on how hard you hit. I would say that the bag speed will determine this distance between the fists, and the movement size, speed etc. But infact it is the other way around. The bag speed is determined by your force. It is continual (slight) adjustments of speed and distance. In time you will begin to sense a difference and separation between the fists in a double punch (or triple part techniques), in that you will learn to adjust the lead or second fist slightly (depending on what technique you will do next), but to learn this I think it is easy to envision both fists together in a "one punch" movement, and locks their speed and force together.

And remember, IF you can do a Front Fist Roll, you are already doing a Front Double Punch. Just think of a Two Punch Fist Roll. The fist movement is slighlty different but the result is exactly the same. :)

[Mkvtte92]

Hello everyone!

I just finished watching Speedboys latest video. I think the drill he is doing is called a single fist link? Correct me if I'm wrong. Anyway, I'm fasinated on how smoothly he flows in and out of this drill. I've included a clip of myself trying this new drill out, and I'm finding it kind of uncomfortable. I'm trying to stay relaxed but could use any advice anyone could give me.

I'm trying to set the camera back farther as you guys suggested, but I'm going to have to wait until I can get someone over to hold the camera. You would have to see how my garage is set up to understand. Sorry!! I just did'nt want you guys to think I was ignoring that advice.

Thanks again everyone!!!

Mike


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WWH3oHinxsM

[Tim]

I'm fasinated on how smoothly he flows in and out of this drill

Yes, he's quite good. I've been at this on and off for about 3 years and I can't match most of his moves for speed and smoothness.

I've included a clip of myself trying this new drill out, and I'm finding it kind of uncomfortable. I'm trying to stay relaxed but could use any advice anyone could give me.


I coudn't get this video to work... I get this message :(

"This is a private video. If you have been sent this video, please make sure you accept the sender's friend request."

Is it working for anyone else?

I'm trying to set the camera back farther as you guys suggested, but I'm going to have to wait until I can get someone over to hold the camera. You would have to see how my garage is set up to understand.

I have a 6' ladder that I use as a "tripod". I had my wife hold the camera once, but now I'm taping every session to review technique.

[Mkvtte92]

Sorry.....The video should work now.

Mike

[ryzies]

you seem to be doing just fine for now...you are just getting out of the rythm sometimes...you'll get it...just keep doing what you're doing there and it'll just happen...my bag rebounds so much different than everyone elses...i wish i could get the rebound that you have on your bag...i would be doing so much better...i'm gonna have to work on that this week...

[ryzies]

wait no way!...i think that i just got it...hahaha...i am very good at fist rolls and now i see exactly what i need to do...i was always thinking that it had to be sort of a swooping action from the shoulders at the bag but now i see exactly what you mean...alan you worded that perfect...thanks so much...i'll do video this week...thanks so much

[speedboy]

Mkvtte your second clip is very good have you already tried a smaller bag? i think it can be easier

[Mkvtte92]

No, I have'nt tried a smaller bag. That one is pretty small, but not the smallest that they make. So you think that would be easier huh? I'm gonna start looking for a smaller bag right now. Thanks!

Mike

[Speedbag]

No, I have'nt tried a smaller bag. That one is pretty small, but not the smallest that they make. So you think that would be easier huh? I'm gonna start looking for a smaller bag right now. Thanks!

Mike

Going to a smaller bag is not necessarily the best solution. That will not make a Fist Roll easier to perform, only faster. But a fist Roll is often easier to learn when done faster. SO, try this: Lean into the bag "slightly". When you do this, it will shorten the rebounding arc of the bag, for your fist(s) will make contact earlier in the rebound. This will automatically make it faster, yet leaving the larger belly target to hit.

...and this is exactly what happens with a "smaller" bag. It has a shorter rebound arc, and you will automatically move in closer to reach the belly at the correct time. By leaning into a larger bag, you will accomplish the same thing. You will notice this also raises the bag belly up a bit higher than your normal fist contact point, but I find this helpful in controlling the Front Fist Roll. As you move back, the fist contact point will lower to it's regular setting.

Leaning in also has one added advantage. IF you make a weak or faulty fist contact, the bag won't have the room to bounce far off path, since the distance to the board and back is reduced.

a last tip would be to really accentuate the raised elbows to parallel. With experience and skill, they will drop but with a lower elbow I think people tend to smack their "rolling" hands on each other. If you can keep your upper arm straight out from the shoulder, Rolling at nose-mouth level, it is a much more predictable fist movement.

...(Which is where the bag will be if you move in slightly. :rolleyes: )