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platform, Craigslist -- $120 Garden Grove, CA

paranday — Wed, 22 May 2013 16:07:57 GMT

http://orangecounty.craigslist.org/spo/3820891796.html

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Everlast 4200 and chainlink swivel

Speedbag — Tue, 21 May 2013 18:08:46 GMT

Everlast 4200 9x6 and swivel. Not a bad purchase price, actually. A new bladder might give you a great bag. Plastic beads look beat down a bit, which is a good thing.

I-box upgrade with custom 3 � inch maple drum

Cem326 — Tue, 21 May 2013 10:38:32 GMT

Some of you might have already done a few of these... I thought I would post this incase it would help someone else.

I also want to say that the I-box is a solid platform. I had very little vibration before making any changes. I did these mainly for fun�

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Stopping when you're really whopping

fedora — Tue, 21 May 2013 04:03:08 GMT

When practicing a particularly hard combination I've gotten it into my mind that I hate to stop if I'm not doing well. I like to stop when I've really nailed it at least a few times. I'm thinking that my mind and body will remember where I left off, whether I was doing good or bad. Besides I just hate to quit if I haven't made some progress. Does anyone else do that? I'm still working on that 4 way IO elbow without the triplet rebound and it's still a challenge. Sometimes I have sessions that are better than others, but even in an off session I still hate to quit if I haven't nailed it just right for a few rotations left to right. It may be more a mental thing than an actual physical thing, but hey, isn't that half the game. When I start another practice session my mind is on my last practice when I was finishing on a high note rather than on a low one.

fedora

Whitely swivel, eBay

paranday — Tue, 21 May 2013 01:31:03 GMT

http://www.ebay.com/itm/310672954907

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Vintage Books_under new ownership.

Speedbag — Tue, 21 May 2013 00:29:09 GMT

Picked up these orginals just this week. Both have covers in Bad shape, but They'll still look nice in my collection of bag punching instruction manuals.

I will bring them to Real Gymm, for the Gathering in July. Can't wait to read that section from 1924 on "exhibition bag punching".

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Oklahoma and Kansas members

Speedbag — Mon, 20 May 2013 23:56:05 GMT

Here's hoping all forum members in the path of the massive storms today in Oklahoma and Kansas are safe. We have a few members, especially active in by-gone days, that live in these areas.

Forecasters say "we're" (texas) gonna get it tomorrow. Actually, we just got hit by a few close by in Granbury Texas and some other locations last week.

Hello

Scott Reese — Mon, 20 May 2013 21:09:00 GMT

Hi all,

I just joined the forum and so am making my mandatory post. I am setting up a home boxing gym and have learned a great deal about speed bags from this forum. Thank you everyone for sharing your knowledge.

Cheers,
Scott

Everlast plastic ball & S-hook

ventanakaz — Mon, 20 May 2013 06:11:35 GMT

today i changed out my everlast metal swivel and again gave the everlast plastic swivel a try. this time instead of taking out the metal ball, eyebolt, S-hook outta the metal swivel, i used a full brass ball and used the eyebolt and S-hook that came with the plastic swivel. it screwed right into the brass ball but i did have to cut some threads off so it didn't hang down so low and i also cut more threads on the eyebolt to bring the bag up higher, i also added a rubber washer on the eyebolt shank to make it even more quiet (size 000) and to keep the plastic from getting damaged from the eyebolt shank hitting it, i'll get more life outta the plastic swivel with the washer on the shank. i ordered two more plastic swivels from (mma one stop shop) you can find them on amazon and ebay. when they come in i'll use a brass ball on one but i'll again fabricate the eyebolt and S-hook because mine will be heavier than the one that comes with the swivel and there for will perform better being that its heavier it will flop around alot less than the stock one (floating). you get less miss hits with a heavier assembly (ball, eyebolt, S-hook) this time i'll fab the S-hook with that offset, this should keep the bag on better and i can use my eyebolt S-hook on the classic metal everlast swivel and also the powermill swivel. but untill they come in and i fab the eyebolt S-hook. for now the setup with the brass ball and stock eyebolt S-hook is working great ;-) ...ralph

Everlast ball hook, eBay

paranday — Mon, 20 May 2013 00:46:16 GMT

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-Ever...item3a815026e9

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Everlast 4211, eBay

Dutchman — Mon, 20 May 2013 00:43:45 GMT

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-Ever...item3a8153e43a

Everlast 4207,eBay

Dutchman — Mon, 20 May 2013 00:41:11 GMT

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Everlast-Str...item3cd1ce5b73

Ernie Oriente Sr. news clip

Speedbag — Sun, 19 May 2013 21:42:44 GMT

Here's one of our oldest and most enthusiastic bag brothers, 81 year old Ernie Oriente on a local news clip.

antique

doss darwin — Sun, 19 May 2013 17:56:27 GMT

ANTIQUE BENLEE #404 LEATHER PUNCHING BAG WITH BRACKET

listed on ebay for three days--can not post link, sorry--dd

WinnWell SB 08 speed bag, Made in Canada

paranday — Sat, 18 May 2013 20:57:55 GMT

What vintage, which swivel?
http://www.ebay.com/itm/190842085617

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U-Bolt Swivel action

Speedbag — Sat, 18 May 2013 20:29:50 GMT

This is just a close up review of the action of a U-Bolt swivel, how it works and some possible issues that occur, as shown here on the Speedbagcentral.com swivel page

All these stills were made from an earlier video by PunchDrummer at a video link below, and I use it because it has a clear closeup of the
U-Bolt swivel.

I think the "normal" or best position for the U-bolt swivel is when the open "U" is facing the front, toward the puncher. It doesn't matter if it is a wide or Narrow "U", depending on the make and model, The puncher is looking at the open "U". This how it sits most of the time when it is being used. My own experience tells me this as does watching many speed bag video's of people using this type of swivel. the picture on the left shows this configuration. from the side, we don't see the "U", the puncher does, and when the bag is struck you can clearly see the entire "U" moves with the bag (green line angle) and the bag maintains firm contact with the "U".

In the next two pictures, (middle is front punch, picture on right is a reverse punch) you can clearly see that the "U" is facing toward the side, not at the puncher, and his point of view would be looking at the side bar of the "U", not the open face. At this point when he contacts the bag, the bag will slide in the direction of the punch and depending on the actual contact point on the bag in that rebound, may react even further. IF the contact point was ON the belly or a bit above the belly, this would apply force downward, driving the bag a bit downward, maintaining friction and connection to the bar, so the bag would just slide a bit on the bar. But if the contact point is a bit Under the belly, this could raise the bag up and make it float off the bar while it is sliding sideways. IMO, when this happens it changes the bag speed just a bit for the bag must reestablish connection with the bar or it will straight to the ground. (if this was a ball hook, it would have launched off the hook). The bag reconnects to the bar and will then react to the next punch, which will also depend on the position of the "U" in that connection.

I only bring this up as a point of consideration for bag action and successful non-stop punching. This issue happens many many times on a U-Bolt swivel, and most of the time the puncher recovers or keeps going and it was never an issue. The puncher may sense a moment of malaise, that sense that somethings off, but the next punch corrects it and you keep going.

However, it can be an important point in YOUR progress, for if you keep having problems with a certain combinations that contain strikes from different sides, or are struggling to maintain control It just could be these slight alterations in the bag action due to the U-Bolt. For me it happens most of the time with a lot of combinations that include side punches, for if the "U" is facing me correctly, then a side punch will hit the bar side of the "U", and I anticipate the bag will slide on the bar. (unless I have taped the bag down to the center, which is why I do that).

Anyway, when I reveiw many video's of people punching, I can tell you many (not all) of their control problems often related to this.

I will use my buddy Punchdrummer as an example. A great speed bagger, trains often and is picking up many of the more complicated combinations. However he still struggles a bit with a wondering contact point on the bag, I suspect due to his arm swinging motion, but may slightly miss-hit the bag maybe 10% of the time. Most of the time it's no big deal and he pulls off the combination he is attempting, however, when he does miss, and I say this honestly, it is almost always due to the U-Bolt swivel, which clearly goes all over the place in this video and you can find many examples where the bag is either sliding or floating off the bar.

Of course you may also struggle on your contact points and bag control on a ballhook, but I'm willing to be almost all errors made on ballhooks are due to the bagger, not the swivel action or construction.

found http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mtppe4yoOA8

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XMark Freestanding frame

Speedbag — Sat, 18 May 2013 18:26:45 GMT

Here is a freestanding frame I have never seen before. I Wonder how stable it is. Clever attempt at getting a double wall mount setting on a single pole stand.

http://www.gtechfitness.com/xmark-co...d-xm-2848.aspx

anybody ever hit one?

Everlast 4202 bag, eBay

paranday — Sat, 18 May 2013 13:26:47 GMT

http://www.ebay.com/itm/350797468623

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Speed Bag Lace Play at Rush Hour

PunchDrummer — Sat, 18 May 2013 08:01:04 GMT

Everything was pretty funny to me today - even this. So before it's not (usually in the AM), I'm going to share my videoed minute or two of pure fun this afternoon.
And yes, there's nothing like a quad of locomotives roaring by at midnight to enhance whatever it is your doing. Really! If I keep the music loud enough, they think it's me. lol

Seriously: Alan - you gave me that smile (well, most of it anyway today. :D). I've wanted to enjoy the Speed Bag like that for most of my life - and I'm having a lot of fun and continue to be challenged. Thank you!

http://youtu.be/MLeysrV5jwA

My Custom Built Speed Bag Platform

jtwright4216 — Sat, 18 May 2013 01:15:05 GMT

Hey everyone this is one of my first posts here on the speed bag forum. I have been to the site before but never posted anything. I'm an avid speed bagger and just recently made my first speed bag platform in my garage. Check out my latest post on my blog http://thatshouldhold.com/build-a-speed-bag-platform/ .

It gives step by step instructions on how to build this type of platform. I am going to upload the plans also on my blog that are all dimensioned out.

Let me know what you guys think. I am very pleased with the performance of the platform. The only thing that I would have done differently was implement some type of height adjuster. One of my buddies came over and he was well over 6'-0" tall and hit his head on it. Bummer.

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