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  • Phillyspeedbagger
    Speed Bag Trainee
    • Oct 2008
    • 5

    Ceiling Mounted Platform

    I am thinking of mounting a speed bag platform to the ceiling in my basement. I intend to somehow (still contemplating how) attach the drum directly to the floor joists. Does anyone have any ideas/photos of other ceiling mounts? Thanks.
  • Speedbag
    Author of the Speed Bag Bible, founder of speedbagcentral.com

    • Feb 2006
    • 7110

    #2
    Not on my end. I've always wanted to try that and I bet it hits solid, but I have never hung one. Several here have in the past. Perhaps they will post about it.
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    • Jedd Johnson
      Speed Bag Trainee
      • Oct 2006
      • 18

      #3
      I think mine is like this. Sorry to ask a dumb question but are joists the boards?

      If so, then mine is close.

      The boards were too high to work for my height so i extended other boards down from the ceiling boards and connected my platform to it.

      You can check out some of my videos on my youtube channel, http://www.youtube.com/user/JeddJohnson or on my website, DieselCrew.com.

      -Jedd-

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      • mikerehab
        Speed Bag Trainee
        • Jul 2008
        • 12

        #4
        ceiling setup

        If you use the search feature on this website, which is on the top toolbar, and you put in "ceiling' as your search term, you will see a number of threads about ceiling setups. The main issue is noise radiating through your house. This can be decreased by mounting foam, rubber chocks, or antivibration mats or tiles between the wood and the ceiling. Even with those, there is still a fair amount of noise.

        The best ways around the noise are:
        - a setup mounted in cement, as occurs in many basements or garages
        - a free standing setup which is nicely illustrated by Tim's setup and in the recent postings by Alan Kahn (speedbag) about Czechoslovakia.

        I just did a free standing setup in my garage and it avoids the problem of noise in the house. The downside is the cost of the lumber.

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        • Tim
          Administrator and Founder of SpeedBagForum.com


          • Jan 2006
          • 3433

          #5
          Originally posted by mikerehab View Post
          I just did a free standing setup in my garage and it avoids the problem of noise in the house. The downside is the cost of the lumber.
          Let's see some pics ...

          Agreed the lumber cost is a killer. It cost me > $300 for mine, including the 1/2 inch hardware holding it all together.

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          • Phillyspeedbagger
            Speed Bag Trainee
            • Oct 2008
            • 5

            #6
            Ceiling Mount

            Mikerehab,

            Thanks for the info... very insightful comment about the sound reverberating through the house. I rent the first floor and basement of a cape cod style house. After reading a few posts on the forum regarding platforms, I decided to build a drum and attach to the floor joists in the basement. I went to Lowes and got two, 2' x 4' sheets of maple plywood (total of $35.00). I cut and glued four 24" diameter circles. I sanded, stained, and mounted... exceptionally solid... the drum probably weighs 35 to 40 pounds and is 2 5/8" thick. I mounted the drum this week to 2 x4 runners connected to the floor joists. It is solid, but incredibly loud. The sound echoes throughout the house and limits when I can use it. Given that I am not permitted to drill into the concrete walls, I am contemplating building another drum and mounting it on one the basement support poles. There is a guy on youtube (83 year old speed bagger) who has such a set-up and it looks real solid... I am just not sure how the drum attaches. Any ideas/pictures of a basement pole set-up?

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            • Speedbag
              Author of the Speed Bag Bible, founder of speedbagcentral.com

              • Feb 2006
              • 7110

              #7
              Originally posted by Phillyspeedbagger View Post
              Mikerehab,

              ..... There is a guy on youtube (83 year old speed bagger) who has such a set-up and it looks real solid... I am just not sure how the drum attaches. Any ideas/pictures of a basement pole set-up?
              "Pete" Designed and made that entire unit himself to hang it on a pole in his basement. It was part of a much longer video VHS he sent to me year ago, showing me the swivel modifications he had made. Basically he "fixed" a chainlink swivel so it would only work in one plane (not turn), so you could hit "only" front to back, or "only" side to side. It was a fascinating modification.

              Personally, I don't want the swivel mechanics to determine which direction the bag will move. ( notice in his video's how he keeps adjusting the swivel depending on which direction he will be punching) But that does not take away from his amazing punching skills. I would rate him very advanced on control and ability.

              more of him here and here at his website: www.speedbag-advocate.com

              (* he lives somewhere in the Sarasoto Florida area around Ernie Oriente, and sometimes he shows up at the Same YMCA.

              He's a very fiendly guy, so contact via his website and perhaps he'll share his plans on how he made the pole unit.
              Last edited by Speedbag; 11-22-2008, 11:25 AM.
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              • Phillyspeedbagger
                Speed Bag Trainee
                • Oct 2008
                • 5

                #8
                Thanks Alan. I just sent Rocky an e-mail. Hopefully he can shed some light onto the pole mounted system. Also, on his website, he states that smaller bags have little benefit for exercise and thus, he usues only medium to large bags. What is your feeling about this?

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                • Speedbag
                  Author of the Speed Bag Bible, founder of speedbagcentral.com

                  • Feb 2006
                  • 7110

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Phillyspeedbagger View Post
                  Thanks Alan. I just sent Rocky an e-mail. Hopefully he can shed some light onto the pole mounted system. Also, on his website, he states that smaller bags have little benefit for exercise and thus, he usues only medium to large bags. What is your feeling about this?
                  Most people use what works for them and their own purposes. I think it depends on the results you want - and you adjust the equipment accordingly. If you want to work on faster hands and faster reactions, you will want to use smaller bags.

                  I suspect Mr. Greiner believes he gets more personal benefit and enjoyment from using larger bags, as well as a swivel that can be adjusted for more directional control. It works well for him but in the end you have to decide on what is best and the most enjoyable for you.
                  Last edited by Speedbag; 11-23-2008, 02:10 PM.
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                  • Phillyspeedbagger
                    Speed Bag Trainee
                    • Oct 2008
                    • 5

                    #10
                    Mikerehab,

                    Tell me more about the anti-vibration materials. The more I have analyzed my basement and the height of the ceiling, my pole mounted platform just won't work. I am going to need to stick with the set-up I made which attaches directly to the floor joists... however, the sound which travels upstairs is just incredible. How to I minimize the sound? What specific materials would you use?

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                    • tump
                      Speed Bag Trainee
                      • Dec 2015
                      • 3

                      #11
                      Ceiling Mount for Speed Bag

                      Just bought a speed bag and swivel for my 16 year son (and myself). Our basement does not have floor to ceiling walls (crawl spaces). We have "old wood" floor joists we can connect to. Joists are 2 x 10 - so have plenty of space.

                      Based on reading this post, and others around, it seems that ceiling mounted platforms for speed bags can work. Am looking for any of the following:

                      1) Materials used to create a sound buffer (rubber pads, grommets?)
                      2) How best to connect to the floor joists (am thinking of all kinds of ways), using two runners directly on the floor joists and then maybe another pair of runners below those with maybe some diagonal support beams for firmness and durability
                      3) Optimum dimensions of the platform
                      4) Looks like everyone takes two pieces of 1 1/2 inch wood (plywood, maple, others?) and glues together as the platform. True?

                      Any materials lists, pics, videos are very welcome.

                      I look forward to my father-son project.

                      Thanks for the help in advance.

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                      • paranday
                        Speed Bag Guru
                        • Sep 2009
                        • 2515

                        #12
                        A thick platform is desirable. Vibration is the enemy of fun in speed bagging.

                        Can't help you on the noise deadening, I'd prefer to mount to a cement wall if there is one and if it is convenient. Others have mounted directly to the floor joists the result being a very solid platform. But it may limit when you can punch the bag if the noise really shakes the rest of the house. Hope someone can give advice on sound deadening.

                        The bigger the diameter of the platform the larger the bag you can hit. That does not matter to everyone. I find 24" to be too small for old school bags like the Title big blue bag. 30" or an even larger diameter is better depending on your planned usage.

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                        • tump
                          Speed Bag Trainee
                          • Dec 2015
                          • 3

                          #13
                          Thanks for response on ceiling mount

                          Yeah - will probably go with a 30-36" diameter platform.

                          Would love to hear from anyone who has experience attaching the platform to the floor joists. Best approaches, good experience? Bad experience? All welcome.

                          Thanks.

                          T

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                          • Zaza
                            Speed Bag Guru
                            • Apr 2011
                            • 2000

                            #14
                            Originally posted by tump View Post
                            Yeah - will probably go with a 30-36" diameter platform.

                            Would love to hear from anyone who has experience attaching the platform to the floor joists. Best approaches, good experience? Bad experience? All welcome.

                            Thanks.

                            T
                            Here's one of my first posts...on my first platform!


                            No matter what you do, it will rattle the house when attached to the floor joists. Sorry.

                            Here it is in action....
                            Art of the Bag - A Speed Bag Story
                            http://www.artofthebag.com

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                            • tump
                              Speed Bag Trainee
                              • Dec 2015
                              • 3

                              #15
                              Thanks

                              Appreciate it. I am taking best of ideas from around forum (and beyond). When I come up with a plan, I will share back out on the forum. My brother (an engineer with tons of handiwork projects under his belt) is going to help with the design.

                              Thanks!

                              Tump

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