Alright, i would like anyone's help on this problem i m having, but i would only like serious answers of knowledgeable people, not what you 'think' may work out... because i ve had it with this thing and i m about to rip it all off the wall and throw it away..
In the above thread i m describing how i build my platform initially..
now, i replaced the wood some time ago, its thicker and lighter, producing less vibration than that piece of junk i had initially...
Here is my platform now, i simple replaced the wood as i said (i also found it thrown away somewhere )
So, the problem began when i first drilled the holes in my wall. By mistake i made one of the holes a liiitle bigger than i should, a few milimetres lets say. So, i then put the plastic plugs and the screws in (plastic plugs suitable for that wall, its not cement). But, when the whole platform was at place, that screw in the bigger hole was a little bit loose, and the vibrations made the aluminium support you see above step away from the wall at that spot. That same thing happened with one other screw and plug.
So, i took of the right support and replaced two of the loose plugs with larger plugs and larger screws.. this happened again, and i replaced them both with even larger plugs and screws..
BUT, still the problematic plug is NOT STABLE and with the vibration it gets detached from the wall when i practice, up to half and inch or so! This results in f@cking up my whole workout, since one of the two supports is firmly in place no matter how hard i hit the speedbag, while the other is loose and f@cked up... and i dont know how to fix this.
So, here are the screws in the plugs as you can see below:
the left is the original, and the right is the replaced one, very much larger as you can see..
The same with the down screws. This large one you see on the right is the one that causes all the problems! It jumps up to 1-2cm off the wall due to the force of the vibration, and when i pluged it it was REALLY tight. The reason you see these screws so larger then the ones on the left support, is that because of the vibration and the loose plug the hole in the wall was getting bigger and bigger, and i had to use larger and larger plugs.. this one you see is the largest i could find, i ve reached the limit..
I m not sure how to fix this situation. I recently saw this page:
It says:
"For most bedroom or finished wall setups, it is recommended to create a two or three strip wall frame of light lumber (1x4 boards) and attach the speed bag vertical mounts to the wood rather than directly to the wall. For cement or cinder block walls, it is recommended to place horizontal wood runners on the wall (with proper attaching hardware for the wall surface) and attach the brackets of the speed bag unit to the wood. "
So, all this problem with vibration unpluging my screws and F@CKING UP my wall, could be because of the fact i am using library support aluminium things attached directly to the wall??? Would this not occur if i had these support things first attached to wood, and the wood attached to the wall? Or should i just make pure wooden support for my platform, as many friends in here have done in their homemade platforms?
If i made some wooden support, HOW would i attach it to the wall? With plastic plugs? With nails perhaps?!
If i use wood upon the aluminium support, then how would i attach it to the wall??? I would use the same plastic plugs? Or should i find much longer ones to cover both wood distance and the wall? Or some other way?
Its a pity cause i have found the proper wood and one of the two supports is really firm on the wall, its that small problem with the loose plug that became bigger and bigger and is now resulted in catastrophe: imagine having a platform where the left part stays in place always and the right part vibrates 1-2cm away from the wall in each hit... is that nerve breaking or what..
Its not a bad construction overall and i want it to work adequately..
Any help appreciated...
In the above thread i m describing how i build my platform initially..
now, i replaced the wood some time ago, its thicker and lighter, producing less vibration than that piece of junk i had initially...
Here is my platform now, i simple replaced the wood as i said (i also found it thrown away somewhere )
So, the problem began when i first drilled the holes in my wall. By mistake i made one of the holes a liiitle bigger than i should, a few milimetres lets say. So, i then put the plastic plugs and the screws in (plastic plugs suitable for that wall, its not cement). But, when the whole platform was at place, that screw in the bigger hole was a little bit loose, and the vibrations made the aluminium support you see above step away from the wall at that spot. That same thing happened with one other screw and plug.
So, i took of the right support and replaced two of the loose plugs with larger plugs and larger screws.. this happened again, and i replaced them both with even larger plugs and screws..
BUT, still the problematic plug is NOT STABLE and with the vibration it gets detached from the wall when i practice, up to half and inch or so! This results in f@cking up my whole workout, since one of the two supports is firmly in place no matter how hard i hit the speedbag, while the other is loose and f@cked up... and i dont know how to fix this.
So, here are the screws in the plugs as you can see below:
the left is the original, and the right is the replaced one, very much larger as you can see..
The same with the down screws. This large one you see on the right is the one that causes all the problems! It jumps up to 1-2cm off the wall due to the force of the vibration, and when i pluged it it was REALLY tight. The reason you see these screws so larger then the ones on the left support, is that because of the vibration and the loose plug the hole in the wall was getting bigger and bigger, and i had to use larger and larger plugs.. this one you see is the largest i could find, i ve reached the limit..
I m not sure how to fix this situation. I recently saw this page:
It says:
"For most bedroom or finished wall setups, it is recommended to create a two or three strip wall frame of light lumber (1x4 boards) and attach the speed bag vertical mounts to the wood rather than directly to the wall. For cement or cinder block walls, it is recommended to place horizontal wood runners on the wall (with proper attaching hardware for the wall surface) and attach the brackets of the speed bag unit to the wood. "
So, all this problem with vibration unpluging my screws and F@CKING UP my wall, could be because of the fact i am using library support aluminium things attached directly to the wall??? Would this not occur if i had these support things first attached to wood, and the wood attached to the wall? Or should i just make pure wooden support for my platform, as many friends in here have done in their homemade platforms?
If i made some wooden support, HOW would i attach it to the wall? With plastic plugs? With nails perhaps?!
If i use wood upon the aluminium support, then how would i attach it to the wall??? I would use the same plastic plugs? Or should i find much longer ones to cover both wood distance and the wall? Or some other way?
Its a pity cause i have found the proper wood and one of the two supports is really firm on the wall, its that small problem with the loose plug that became bigger and bigger and is now resulted in catastrophe: imagine having a platform where the left part stays in place always and the right part vibrates 1-2cm away from the wall in each hit... is that nerve breaking or what..
Its not a bad construction overall and i want it to work adequately..
Any help appreciated...
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