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  • paranday
    Speed Bag Guru
    • Sep 2009
    • 2515

    Dutchman type history question

    What swivel is this?

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  • Dutchman
    Speed Bag Historian
    • Jun 2006
    • 1903

    #2
    Hmm, I want to say it's a Medart, most if not all of their output was for institutional use. Not something that you would see everyday.

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    • paranday
      Speed Bag Guru
      • Sep 2009
      • 2515

      #3
      The seller wrote back and said the swivel says "Healthways Champion". I've seen them in old photographs, never seen one for sale before.

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      • Bag Man
        Senior Member
        • Jan 2011
        • 182

        #4
        Originally posted by paranday View Post
        The seller wrote back and said the swivel says "Healthways Champion". I've seen them in old photographs, never seen one for sale before.
        "He [Marciano] was far and away the strongest man I've encountered."

        Archie Moore

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        • rdshackleford
          Speed Bag Guru
          • Oct 2016
          • 1300

          #5
          So, the bag goes directly on the eye-bolt, no S-hook in between? Outrageous!
          @ArcSwivel
          #ArcSwivel sigpic

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          • paranday
            Speed Bag Guru
            • Sep 2009
            • 2515

            #6
            Originally posted by rdshackleford View Post
            So, the bag goes directly on the eye-bolt, no S-hook in between? Outrageous!
            That does seem outrageous.

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            • paranday
              Speed Bag Guru
              • Sep 2009
              • 2515

              #7
              That's a bargain. Not for me, but someone might want one.

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              • rdshackleford
                Speed Bag Guru
                • Oct 2016
                • 1300

                #8
                Originally posted by paranday View Post
                That does seem outrageous.
                Maybe it works ok with big heavy bags on rusty or otherwise not smooth ball swivels, but its a loser when you crank up the performance.
                @ArcSwivel
                #ArcSwivel sigpic

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                • Dutchman
                  Speed Bag Historian
                  • Jun 2006
                  • 1903

                  #9
                  Healthways Champion? I haven't encountered one of those before, learn something new every day

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                  • jaja6009
                    Speed Bag Guru
                    • Dec 2016
                    • 396

                    #10
                    What are the advantages and disadvantages the hook going straight to the ball? Tom did you try this in your testing with the Arc?

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                    • rdshackleford
                      Speed Bag Guru
                      • Oct 2016
                      • 1300

                      #11
                      This is something I tried early on. I just didn't move right. It is short and therefore fast, but too much axial force is transferred to the bag and the rebounds were not accurate.

                      @ArcSwivel
                      #ArcSwivel sigpic

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                      • jaja6009
                        Speed Bag Guru
                        • Dec 2016
                        • 396

                        #12
                        I think I knew the answer before I asked the question on whether you tried it.

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