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Old 05-28-2006, 04:48 PM
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ball was kept lubed

i use to lube the bearing inside too yea. but when im looking at this thing now its looks to me like it was the eye hook bar that was breaking off as it was hitting the housing, i couldbe wrong , im gunna take a pic of it and show it here to see for yourself
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Old 05-28-2006, 05:28 PM
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pics of the culprit

i actulay ben trying out the plastic version of this style and allthough it has a pretty true response to the angle of punch its slower and seems to lack life when getting into it. so now im using this metal again WITH MY SAFTEY GLASSES cuz lemme tell ya after goin to the eye doc 3 times to get steel removed im gunna go bankrupt
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Old 05-29-2006, 06:54 PM
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i actulay ben trying out the plastic version of this style and allthough it has a pretty true response to the angle of punch its slower and seems to lack life when getting into it. so now im using this metal again WITH MY SAFTEY GLASSES cuz lemme tell ya after goin to the eye doc 3 times to get steel removed im gunna go bankrupt
How many different metal swivels have you tried? Could it be possible the one you got is way sub-standard ? Mine does appear to have wear on the eye hook as well, but I really have never had a problem with getting anything in my eyes, or noticed metal anywhere else for that matter.
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Old 05-29-2006, 08:04 PM
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metal chips

i had 2 metal ball and hooks , the first one i had came with the chuck norris set
i had the same problem with both swivels with chips of metal breaking off.
both swivels sent me to the eye doctor. the speck of steel that comes off it is about the size of a speck of salt from a salt shaker. i never feel it when it goes in , but usualy a few hours later i would get that sensation of something in my eye, and u would have to look very closely to see it because its a very small chip. i remember the first day it happend , when night cam and it was time to sleep . i couldnt keep my eye shut because it was irritated and kept watering.
i really dont know why it keeps happening, but just yesterday, i was using the swivel again(with the safety glasses) and i noticed a speck of something on my arm, i wondered if it was a speck of steel, so took a magnet to it and sure enough it was
its very scary , by the third time i went to the eye doctor he said my eyeball was startin to look like the moon with craters on it
i really like the ball and hook metal swviel though, so i still use it but i wont without saftey glasses, and im buying more metal ones, but which one is made of the stronger steel?? who wants to find out?
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Old 06-03-2006, 07:08 PM
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question for allen

allen i was wondering if the 2 piece metal swivel was better made than the 1 piece with the plastic backing plate
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Old 06-04-2006, 11:30 AM
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allen i was wondering if the 2 piece metal swivel was better made than the 1 piece with the plastic backing plate
I can't really answer that for I haven't used the one piece plastic swivel. Some here on the forum say it has good action, after welding/supergluing it the hook shank into the plastic ball.
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May I ask why you need to have your shoulder replaced?
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Old 06-04-2006, 03:03 PM
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Alan,
May I ask why you need to have your shoulder replaced?
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Sure. I was a gym rat for years, with lots of upperbody work, presses and racquetball. I have have had several surgeries on both shoulders (and knees, elbow etc.). The most recent was left shoulder in January 2006. the finding was: there is very little cartilage left on the humeral head or within the glenoid socket. Some areas, particularly the posterior part of the socket, is now bone on bone, causing the serious, biting pain of some movements. Cartliage regeneration procedures work for the knees (read here also), but shoulders are still a few years off.

Just about any "functional" movements (for our purposes, Punching the speed bag) is painful. Not excruciating (mostly... some movements more than others), but enough to severly limit my lifestyle. This is not an "exercise issue" that can be fixed by rehabilitation exercises. I have recently met with a shoulder replacement specialist in Dallas who is on the leading edge of replacement strategies for the younger, more aggressive individual, such as myself. ( that actually includes most people under 60 - 65 years old. Shoulders are a non-weight bearing joint, and just aren't replaced nearly as much as knees and hips. I know lots of 45+ people with artificial hips and knees.)

and, believe it or not, Using the speed bag is not the only sport, fitness or movement activity that I do in life. Most have been stopped over the last year because of this left shoulder issue. In fact, if not for some work related issues over the next few months, I would have already scheduled the surgery.

I do not fear the surgery nearly as much as the lifestyle limitations imposed if I do not have it. Personally, since I survived the cervical spine laminectomies and came back full tilt on the speed bag then I will prevail over a shoulder replacement.
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Old 06-04-2006, 04:32 PM
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question for allen

allen, sorry i ment the metal ball and hook with the plastic backplate ,do u think that when they started making that version they maybe started using a lower grade metal for the housing? because i see lots of people (in pictures anyways) using the all metal (backplae and ballhook) and not ever have a problem as u mentioned u never did either . so i was wondering if maybe the all metal version was made a little better than when they switched the backing plate to plastic even though the housing remained metal , maybe they figured to cut cost even less and use cheaper metel?
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plastic swivel

I have had several two piece ball hooks with a plastic base attachment to the board, and a metal attachment (lower part) to the bag, with a metal ballhook inside. The problem you site would be the same in this swivel, for the metal ballshank still hits steel/metal housing. As far as cheaper metal being used, my opinion is YES, the product was probably changed to a lesser (lower price) material.

You can see the two piece plastic base and metal bag attachment swivel in in this videoclip after the opening. On all the fiddle/bluegrass songs, look at the swivel and you will see a black plastic base with a metal bag attachment. I used this swivel until I took this board down and replaced it with the SKU 400. This board and swivel are now hanging in my garage, where I have two identical boards next to each other.

but I have never had any steel dust or chips in my eye from a metal swivel. At least not that I know of.
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