My speedbag technique

[MasterDux]

Alan,

Thank you so much for the detailed reply. I will try to digest it and watch the video in tandem to make sense and then apply at the gym next time. I wish there was a slow mow on youtube. But that video is pretty good and should help a lot.

I always thought of using the speedbag to improve my hand speed, but that didn't prepare me for bag speed and I can see my hands are not in position to get to the bag in one rebound. Will work on that and looking forward to showing some more progress in the near future.

Your guidance is not going unappreciated. Practice time...

Best,
Dux

[MasterDux]

Thank you so very much for the time to disect my technique and help me figure out how to get to the next level. I will take your advice to the gym and see if I can make sense of it in practice.

Do YOU think it's easier to do those combinations you describe with 1 rebound with a smaller bag than what I'm using? I think it would allow me to get my hands out of the way more easily and not have to strike the bag so hard to keep its speed up on the lousy board I have to use. I have another bag (same, medium) that I want to return and get a smaller bag to see if I have better luck.

When I pull both hands back, are we talking at the same angle, arm straight to bent (I to 7) if the I is my straight right arm and the 7 represents my elbow at top right)? Or does one hand strike it at and angle? Maybe the video you shared will show, I'll check it out.

Thanks again. Looking forward to trying the one rebound.

Dux

[Speedbag]

Originally Posted by MasterDux

Thank you so very much for the time to disect my technique and help me figure out how to get to the next level. I will take your advice to the gym and see if I can make sense of it in practice.

Do YOU think it's easier to do those combinations you describe with 1 rebound with a smaller bag than what I'm using? I think it would allow me to get my hands out of the way more easily and not have to strike the bag so hard to keep its speed up on the lousy board I have to use. I have another bag (same, medium) that I want to return and get a smaller bag to see if I have better luck. Dux

Actually no, it should be easier with a larger bag, but the only difference is "Timing" of the movements. The movements themselves are exactly the same, the only thing that changes with bag size is the timing.

Same thing with a lousy, shaky board, it slows the bag down, making a small, faster bag, go slower. In that case, a small 8x5 bag may bounce as slow as a 9x6 or larger bag, and the only change is timing of the movements.

of course, a more sturdy board is just more fun and efficient to use.

[MasterDux]

[Speedbag]

Looking very fast and efficient. Nice punching.

[MasterDux]

Thank you Alan. I still can't figure out how to get down to 2 rebounds vs. 4 (or was it 1?) or whatever you had mentioned earlier in this thread. I must study it as I don't yet quickly understand the acronyms, etc. I think just watching some of your and Skunks videos will help. Have to learn to keep my hands up and moving together, as well as stop being so right-handed heavy.

Also, what do you guys use on your hands if anything? Wraps feel awful and my weight lifting gloves don't stop my bag now a white one, from getting red from the same scab all the time. Medical tape?

Best,
Dux

[Speedbag]

[QUOTE=MasterDux;36848]Thank you Alan. I still can't figure out how to get down to 2 rebounds vs. 4 (or was it 1?) or whatever you had mentioned earlier in this thread. I must study it as I don't yet quickly understand the acronyms, etc. I think just watching some of your and Skunks videos will help. Have to learn to keep my hands up and moving together, as well as stop being so right-handed heavy.

?? I'm not sure "mentioned earlier in this thread" you're talking about. I said a lot of things early, probably from too much coffee at the time, but as for the number of rebounds required, it is pretty easy to figure some of that out. If a combination happens easily on 4 rebounds (even number) than you can do it on a lesser or more value of "even numbers", so you can go from 4 to 2 by rebounds by doing the combo faster (...with control, of course).

Same thing for a combo you can do on 3 rebounds. You can do it slower on 5 rebounds or faster on 1 rebound, with ONE rebound being the fastest, or more advanced way.

The Side Single Punch (SSP) actually allows us to change the "normal" rules of punching and create some combinations on even (2,4) or odd (1,3) rebounds.

for instance you can do the Front Double Punch (FDP) to Side Single Punch (SS) combination using either odd or even number of rebounds

all of these are correct and possible:

FDP ' SSP (R-L ' R)

FDP ' ' SSP (R-L ' ' R)

FDP ' ' ' SSP (R-L ' ' ' R)

you just have to know the momentary timing change to do any of them.

the first method allows you to roll your hands around the bag with only one rebound in between. just add one or two fists on this with reverse punching.

* FDP ' SSP ' RSP (R-L ' R ' L....) (* this will repeat itself on the other side)

FDP ' SSP ' RDP (R-L ' R ' L-R....)

just work with the rules of rhythm. You can do these combinations.

Originally Posted by MasterDux

Also, what do you guys use on your hands if anything? Wraps feel awful and my weight lifting gloves don't stop my bag now a white one, from getting red from the same scab all the time. Medical tape?

Best,
Dux

You are right, wraps can feel aweful. I had a few pairs that I "cut down" way shorter, making a few wraps around the hand and tying off. I had 8 or 9 wraps around the wrist and palm, which is necessary for heavy bag maybe but not speed bag. Unfortunately there is no better way to give more support to the hand bones than pulling wraps snug. No gloves that I've seen will allow hand bone support. Sure the cover and protect the skin, but that's it.

"Back in the Day" when I hit for hours and hours at close to full power, I had a nasty cut-scab on the knuckles over my little fingers. It could really get sore and glow nasty red, and could be fairly painful when punching. Eventually the scabs healed (bit of rest, coverage and antibiotic ointments) and became scars. The haven't bothered me now in years, however I don't hit for hours and hours every day anymore.

seems like there ought to be a great Rock and Roll song somewhere in the sense of punching a "white bag red". Maybe our current Rock and Roll member, Brian Tichy (spinsmashpop) could write a song...

"Blood on the Bag"



(protect your hands. You can always by another bag. Hands are harder to come by and VERY expensive)