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Old 09-30-2007, 11:21 PM
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Alan's thoughts on wearing gloves

im looking for gloves just for speed bag...do they exist...not bit bag gloves...ive been using my lifting gloves and they get the job done...but perhaps something with a little more padding???
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Old 10-01-2007, 04:01 AM
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im looking for gloves just for speed bag...do they exist...not bit bag gloves...ive been using my lifting gloves and they get the job done...but perhaps something with a little more padding???

It sounds like a noble quest, and in my opinion The perfect speed bag glove would have no seams over the contact areas of the knuckles or sides of the fist. It would also have a soft pliable leather than doesn't skid on the speed bag surface.

Padding for my taste is actually a detriment, because it can shift underneath during rapid direction changes, mis-balancing the hand.

Back several years ago I had the opportunity to work with a company that made custom made workout gloves, and we (...ok - they made them and I tried them ) tried several models and designs. They made a design that stitched up the palms, with no stitching or seams anywhere on the outer bones of the hand, but could not get the right leather to keep from turning the hands a dreadful black that wouldn't wash off. But they worked great. Unfortunately, that company went out of the glove and boxing business, so it never came to market, although I still have the prototypes.

Currently there are a few available "speed bag" gloves, by Ringside boxing and titleboxing and Everlast brand. There may be some others I don't know about.

I personally do not use or recommend any of them because they all have too much material over the sides of the fist that contact the bag. Specifically, the other edge of the little finger (pinkie). I personally want that area smooth and unencumbered by material or padding, and all these gloves have lots of material and creases in that area.

I prefer the Classic Wrist Wrap weight lifting glove by Harbinger, not so much for the wrist wrap, but it is the model glove that fits my three main points: smooth pliable leather that takes the speed bag well, no seams over the hitting area and very little padding to shift inside the material.

I use them occassionally, when my old arthritic hands need them, but in all honestly, when my knuckles are use to hitting regularly, I normally go gloveless.
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Old 10-01-2007, 10:19 PM
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very informative reply...

im rather new to speedbagging..been doing it for less then two months....im likeing the look of the ringside gloves...ive tried the everlast gloves and they are too bulky plus there is a hard piece that goes in the middle of your fist for support i believe...the harbringer ones look like they provide little to no padding...i hit the bag at golds gym so they randomly inflat the bag...and some days its so hard that a miss hit will hurt my knuckle for a few days...


ill let you know how the ringside gloves work out...maybe after a few more months ill be a permanent gloveless hitter like yourself
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Old 10-02-2007, 02:18 AM
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very informative reply...

im rather new to speedbagging..been doing it for less then two months....im likeing the look of the ringside gloves...ive tried the everlast gloves and they are too bulky plus there is a hard piece that goes in the middle of your fist for support i believe...the harbringer ones look like they provide little to no padding...i hit the bag at golds gym so they randomly inflat the bag...and some days its so hard that a miss hit will hurt my knuckle for a few days...


ill let you know how the ringside gloves work out...maybe after a few more months ill be a permanent gloveless hitter like yourself
I've got the ringside gloves, and used them for a bunch of workouts when they first came out. But not for long.

Out of the three "speed bag gloves", they are probably the easiest to use. Actually, for padding the fist, I like
these Gel wraps better than any of the gloves.
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Old 10-02-2007, 12:07 PM
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Hey Alan, I've been using handwraps since I started speed bagging.Yesterday and today I tried it without them and I did notice a difference, I can't pinpoint it but it was there, especially when I tried the FDP. Are handwraps and gloves really important or is it just personal preference?
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Old 10-02-2007, 03:29 PM
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Hey Alan, I've been using handwraps since I started speed bagging.Yesterday and today I tried it without them and I did notice a difference, I can't pinpoint it but it was there, especially when I tried the FDP. Are handwraps and gloves really important or is it just personal preference?
OK, this isn't a quick answer....

To say they are NOT important would go against logic in that the thousands of thousands of accumulated punches, and the repetitive contacts to the hands, skin, bones etc. has to do some damage over time. It stands to reason that some protection would be warranted. The NEW speed bagger will notice his hands may hurt after workouts, his skin (knuckles of contacts points) may shred - and these can get pretty bad - and if they really over do it - perhaps get bone bruises over the little finger knuckle and sometimes the index finger knuckle if they are focusing on reverse punching. Of course, it's worse on a overinflated "Rock hard" bag, particularly a larger one - (which beginners tend to use...)

Knowing this is going to happen, I would always recommend hand protection, especially modified (shortened) hand wraps, for I believe they offer the small bones of the hands more support. I have broken a few bones in my hands (thanks to martial arts, not speed bag related..) and a hand surgeon specialist/martial artist himself told me that there is little support to forces hitting the hands from the sides (knife hands and ridge hands). the small hand bones can bang together more easily than from straight fist punching contact, - So he recommended hand wraps as a better protection method, for they both protect the skin and help support the bones and connective tissue from side contact. In the speed bag, we hit the sides of the fists many times.

When the skin shreds, or the hands hurt, it's time for protection *better to prevent it..

I have found that the modest speed baggers hands will eventually adapt to the workouts, and over time will find himself/herself hitting without gloves because it's quicker, easier and less hassle. I'm talking non-boxing gym workouts here, for most boxers or those in boxing gyms tend to wrap and use gloves. Part of the image - and it does help the hands. (* although, I've heard a boxer or two complain about their hands hurting... hmm.)

I find most woman are much better at using gloves or wraps. Check this out, and scroll down the page a bit. *note Lisa is not using gloves. For the record, this lady is a master of the speed bag. I talking speed and complexity of combinations.

I am an old speed bagger and have gone through several phases. I do have scars notched in over the contact knuckles from many workouts with opened cuts over the areas. Those were made many years ago "in my youth" when the mantra was "no pain, no gain". Looking back, I suppose that is why I have had over 15 operations on most major joints.

now When I hit the bag "normally", now meaning 2 or 3 days a week for 30 minutes or more with moderate or more force, my hands don't bother me if I hit unprotected, and that is my personal preference. When I am away from it for months at a time, and return I find my hands once again begin to hurt and skin shreds. When that happens, I use gloves. Look close and your will see them here in this video, at 2:26 - 2:50. Actually, that 199 footage was made when I was testing the harbinger gloves for speed bag use. A few minutes later that day I even said , "man, I like these gloves. they take the bag well..".

Most of my online footage does not show gloves, but I've got many hours of footage with them also. From 1990 on I taped hundreds of workouts, from many angles - and was constantly changing things around. I found it much easier to deal with the lights, camera, videorecorders, music players etc. without gloves. When you see them, it was usually for a reason - not necessarily hand protection. I did hundreds of takes on different colored bags, gloves, clothes, masks etc. my cutting room floor is littered.

In truth, now one of my shoulders usually hurts long before my hands, and I give it up from that. So, to be honest, it is a do as I say, not as I do scenario, for I rarely use hand covering for long. I always suggest others do, but that is always your choice.
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Back to metaldad, (sorry for the extended answer.. I'm off work today so I guess I've got time to contemplate..) Yes, handwraps do feel different and I actually prefer them, IF they would stay on easily without the need to tape them. I just can't get them to stay on very long. I cut mine to allow only three of four turns around the hand for support. I don't care for the 10 or 11 extra wrap arounds.
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Old 10-03-2007, 01:50 PM
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Thanks for that. So far I haven't noticed any pain or skin problems, but my bag isn't "rock hard" and it's a medium bag
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...but my bag isn't "rock hard" and it's a medium bag
You'd be surprised how many people think the bag needs to be brick hard... most bags you find in gyms (in my experience) are rediculously over-inflated.
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You'd be surprised how many people think the bag needs to be brick hard... most bags you find in gyms (in my experience) are rediculously over-inflated.
I had tried to use a really hard bag once and got scared that it was gonna burst on me lmao!! Never heard of that happening but needless to say I don't overinflate for that purpose lol
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Old 11-16-2007, 11:07 AM
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If it's the small bags, it is easier on the hands, but larger bags hurt my knuckles.

Since I don't do fancy moves like Speedbag, I like the Century gloves:

http://www.sportsauthority.com/produ...ductId=2147418

Surprisingly, I hit even the X-small bags with the Century gloves more consistently than I do just bare fisted. Other gloves makes it worse than bare fisted. Go figure.
 

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